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OSD, strange you should say this about minerals on the moon as I was just looking at (not actually reading, just looking) a pdf document yesterday which had a graph with the different minerals found on the moon (I think). It was from a recent scientific symposium and I did not keep it as it was short and fairly uninteresting (to me).

They can investigate all they want, but unless someone negotiates a deal with the current owners of the mineral deposits, they will not be allowed to mine them. They will have to take them by force and that is not possible with our current technology (I hope).

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Post-Apollo Lunar Exploration



-- Edited by qmantoo on Saturday 25th of September 2010 09:53:22 AM

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Thank you very much for the Katabatic winds and its implications etc.. As far as I am be able to follow the paper, it deals with a sub-subdetail. Maybe important in context  and interesting, but just a tiny detail of the picture. 

I often wonder, why these advanced mineral mappers and their neighbourinstruments  never record something like ore deposits. I mean deposits= concentrations, not only traces. No lead on mercury, no beryllium on venus, no cobalt on the moon, no molybdenium on mars.?
We have a nice mixture of deposits , a wide spread variety of ore bodies  on earth and nothing comparable to that  in the solar system ?
 Not really plausible.
Regarding the further economic exploration of the solar systems, these datas would be of  strategic value and would definitely be hold back. If this is true, a huge amount of datas and relations between datas gets   blacked out. And this is ( only )one detail, but I would regard it to be significant. These datas are missing ( underevaluated ? ) and a lot of people should be aware of  this "missing".

Another significant point:  I am convinced, no foreign space ageny would risk to publish better images than frontman NASA / JPL  History shows, that defending superiority with unethical strategies, like fraud, oppression, blackmailing, propaganda , war always leads into the orcus. They disappear, but it takes some time and costs a lot of blood and afterwards others arise, doing something simlar. The rule of the low-grades is a typical sign of still planetary bound societies. Hopefully this is an universal law. We have so much homegrown plagues onboard, we do not need some exotic plagues coming from the stars.
No trillion bits of information, but education, the real one, is our onliest chance to escape. Each human  got a tool, worth some billions.  In his head.

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One single drop wrote:

Are there  datas / images published, that give an impression of the  variating "thermal behaviour " of the nightside (-s) of mars and of the twilight zone (-s). Datas as a result of constant observations of selected areas , that allow to follow the processes of cooling and upheating in these areas ? The different wavelengths should allow to reflect about the thermal conditions and combined with some spectral datas allow interesting insights into the quality of the ongoing  processes and substances, during a year, during a day, organic or anorganic...




Most of that is in the published literature. Search for "Mars" and "thermal inertia."


The following paper by Putzig might be a good place to start to give a general overview of daytime/nighttime thermal difference measurements, including some seasonal variations.

Putzig, N. E., M. T. Mellon, K. A. Kretke, and R. E. Arvidson, Global thermal inertia and surface properties of Mars from the MGS mapping mission, Icarus 173, 325-341, 2005.

For any particular location on Mars you'd have to do a literature search. I found interesting one short paper that shows the influence of high downslope winds from Mount Olympus on the local thermal inertia.

The Impact of Katabatic Winds on Martian Thermal Inertia Retrievals. (Full article available)



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I think I read somewhere recently that Planetry org has a couple of years worth of weather data but there were some errors in the instruments at some point during that time and they had to stop taking readings for a while. Even so there are millions of discrete readings in that data. They publish graphs etc too. Try googling about it and see what you find.

The data is only as good as the people who interpret it, and you have to know what information you want out to be able to piece it all together. It is likely that you would have to pull pieces from different areas together to make up the total picture since scientists of different disciplines want or are mainly interested in data showing their areas of study.

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Are there  datas / images published, that give an impression of the  variating "thermal behaviour " of the nightside (-s) of mars and of the twilight zone (-s). Datas as a result of constant observations of selected areas , that allow to follow the processes of cooling and upheating in these areas ? The different wavelengths should allow to reflect about the thermal conditions and combined with some spectral datas allow interesting insights into the quality of the ongoing  processes and substances, during a year, during a day, organic or anorganic...

Those who sit in the center, where all the datas from all the different disciplines  come together, are those who get the whole picture. We would like to listen and to talk to those people.

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Chandre wrote:
you will see that many craters have this white shiny soil beneath the surface



Not white and shiny to the eye, but reflecting (and emitting) more in the infrared. THEMIS works in emission bands in the infrared from about 6-15 microns, so the white areas are emitting more heat. Typically this will indicate the presence of a particular mineral deposit. This map is made from all the infrared bands, but is not in visible light.



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Posted on behalf of Lotte...

On this map:
if you zoom in just above the very center, you will see that many craters have this white shiny soil beneath the surface, as you see on this picture.

Light soil.jpg


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