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Good find, goggog -

http://www.universetoday.com/86497/proof-bio-station-alpha-is-just-an-image-artifact/#more-86497

Proof! Bio Station Alpha is Just an Image Artifact

by Nancy Atkinson on June 11, 2011

It’s time for another episode of “Conspiracy Theory of the Week.” This one is involves a supposed secret space station on Mars. The You Tube video showing “Bio Station Alpha” (below) went viral and was even reported on some mainstream media outlets. The station is supposedly a 700 ft x 150 ft structure on Mars and by some accounts is colored white with blue and red stripes. It was found on Google Mars by an “armchair astronaut” and breathless conspiracy bloggers have touted this as the most important discovery on Mars yet, and “proof!” that NASA is hiding their activities.

In reality, this is not a space station, a Mars base or any type of structure – created or natural — on the surface of the Red Planet. What shows up in this location on Google Mars is just a smattering of about 11 bad pixels from data dropout – a linear streak artifact likely caused by a cosmic ray hitting the Mars Express spacecraft while it was taking the image – and then that smudge has been badly distorted through image processing when it became part of Google Mars.

“This looks like a comic ray hit,” said Tanya Harrison, planetary scientist on the science operations team for the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter Context Camera (CTX) and Mars Color Imager (MARCI) at Malin Space Science Systems. “We see these from time to time in the MARCI data from MRO.”

Here’s the image that is seen on Google Mars after processing, which includes very noticeable compression artifacts:

 

 

And now here’s the original image taken by the Mars Express High Resolution Stereo Camera image (H5620_0000_ND), taken on May 18, 2008 (and here’s the link to the original image):

 

This image really makes it clear this is an image artifact from a cosmic ray hit.

Here’s the same location taken by the MRO Context Camera (CTX) on January 25, 2010 (a crop of the same location as seen above from the original large CTX image, available here):

 

In this image, each pixel represents a distance of about 6.25 meters, a higher resolution than what is available from the Mars Express spacecraft, which takes images at 10 meters per pixel. Obviously, there is no structure or anything unusual at that location, except for the northern polar sand dunes.

Harrison explained that the CTX acquires grayscale (black & white) images at 6 meters per pixel scale over a swath 30 kilometers wide and provides context images for the MRO HiRISE and CRISM cameras, which can take even higher resolution images. It is used to monitor changes occurring on the planet, and help the science team select critical science targets. The team at Malin Space Science Systems pours over the images looking for anything unusual. In this case, at this location, they found nothing.

“Every day, the images we acquired with CTX and MARCI the previous day are inspected by multiple sets of eyes,” Harrison told Universe Today. “We look at every single image for multiple reasons: checking the health of the instrument, monitoring weather conditions for future targeting of the cameras, and looking for anything geologically interesting.”

Harrison added that nearly all the operations folks on the team have Master’s degrees or Ph.D.s in geology or a related field.

“If we spot anything out of the ordinary, we look at previous images of the area, not just from CTX and MARCI, but from the Mars Global Survery’s Mars Orbiter Camera, the THEMIS VIS and IR on the Mars Odyssey spacecraft, the HRSC on Mars Express, and Viking,” Harrison said. “This lets us look at the features at different illumination angles, times of day, resolutions, etc. We know better than to speculate on something below the resolution of our cameras, so if we see something in CTX that’s worth following up on at a higher resolution, we ask HiRISE to shoot it. The same thing was true for MOC, following up on things observed in the low-resolution wide angle images with high-resolution narrow angle images.”

Clearly, this region has been imaged and examined previously, with absolutely nothing found by the top experts in the field. The region is so uninteresting that no one has requested for HiRISE — which can take images of 1-2 meters per pixel — to take any images of this area.

Harrison said CTX takes images of Mars that are up to 30 km wide and over 300 km long at a very high resolution. “This is a pretty big footprint with a relatively high resolution compared to previous cameras!” she said. “The size of that footprint has allowed us to cover over 60% of Mars at 6 meters per pixel in the 5 years MRO has been orbiting Mars. In addition to mapping, we use CTX to acquire stereo coverage of key areas, as well as to monitor hundreds of locations on Mars for changes such as new impact craters and dust activity.”

If there were something unusual on Mars, the people at NASA, ESA, MSSS and anyone monitoring Mars would have imaged this site repeatedly with the best cameras available. They would love to find something unusual, groundbreaking and front-page worthy, and if they did would be shouting it from the rooftops, not hiding it.

If you want to see it on Google Mars, here are the coordinates: 71 49’19.73?N 29 33’06.53?W

And, if you must, here’s the video by David Martinez:

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This gives us a good source to document this particular type of image defect in case we see one in the future.  By the way, if they don't want armchair astronauts to point out image defects, maybe they should produce a catalog of known image defects for the public.

 

Here is a very telling statement from the article:

“Every day, the images we acquired with CTX and MARCI the previous day are inspected by multiple sets of eyes,” Harrison told Universe Today. “We look at every single image for multiple reasons: checking the health of the instrument, monitoring weather conditions for future targeting of the cameras, and looking for anything geologically interesting.”

Harrison added that nearly all the operations folks on the team have Master’s degrees or Ph.D.s in geology or a related field.

“If we spot anything out of the ordinary, we look at previous images of the area, not just from CTX and MARCI, but from the Mars Global Survery’s Mars Orbiter Camera, the THEMIS VIS and IR on the Mars Odyssey spacecraft, the HRSC on Mars Express, and Viking,” Harrison said. “

...They would love to find something unusual, groundbreaking and front-page worthy, and if they did would be shouting it from the rooftops, not hiding it.

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I have two comments about that statement.

She claims that if they find anything out of the ordinary, they will shout it from the rooftops.  Well, so they have all these PhDs on staff and they've never seen anything out of the ordinary then?  Or maybe they have?  If so, where is the website where they put up such finds - things they have trouble explaining geologically?  No such site exists for interesting finds to show to the public, as all finds can be explained as possibly geological, no matter how complex it may appear.

The second is this. 

Notice what they are looking for that may be interesting to shout to the public:  "... and looking for anything geologically interesting.”

That's right - they are not looking for anything that may possibly interpreted as artificially suggestive.  They are looking for interesting geological forms to shout about to the public.  Very telling.

 

 

 



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 Here is the closest white streak similar to it in the nearby area:

 

 

bioclosestwhitestreak.jpg
This is "biostation alpha" at 25 meters per pixel:
bio5620at25mpix.jpg
This is the closest similar white dot stray looking pixel in the area:
bioclosewhitedot.jpg



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Well, it took a bit of hunting.

ESA 5620 0000 is the source image:

http://hrscview.fu-berlin.de/cgi-bin/ion-p?page=product2.ion&code=56465100&image=5620_0000

Use these coordinates below at the hrsc viewer:

71.826N, 330.435E

 

 

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I think it is a genuine image artifact, but then again, that's probably what you expect I would think.



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From translation - Dutch to English:

<< But when a camera goes to the work, for example of a satellite, these can be damaged by radiation. Those ensure thus that pixels are damaged, as a result of which a white macula arisen...>>

What an absolute load of rubbish!

I have looked at the object in Google Mars. If the object has not been planted in the image strip it would appear to be genuine. The length of the object overall is 200 meters, 35 meters at its narrow part and 60 meters at its widest point. Whatever the object is it is large.

I do not think the object has anything to do with any institution on this planet unless there secret expeditions to Mars have been executed that we do not know about, but I feel that scenario is highly unlikely.



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English translation:

 

Last weekend obtained Martines the newspapers with a vague photograph of top, made by means of Google Earth. He thought a complex of recognising that more than 200 meters long and approximately 45 meters broad was. The armchair astronaut, as he calls itself, had already considered even a name: `Bio station Alpha'. But what saw Martines now really, pieces less appear stretching. At least, according to the research workers who have studied the image. According to them it concerns here ' cosmic straling'. That exists from particles which are expelled by the sun and ASTRE. On ground we have of it actual no charge, because the magnetosfeer protect us there against. But when a camera goes to the work, for example of a satellite, these can be damaged by radiation. Those ensure thus that pixels are damaged, as a result of which a white macula arisen whereas that there is not actual… or nevertheless?

 

 

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Afgelopen weekend haalde Martines de kranten met een vage foto van Mars, gemaakt via Google Earth. Hij dacht er een complex in te herkennen dat meer dan 200 meter lang en ongeveer 45 meter breed was. De armchair astronaut, zoals hij zichzelf noemt, had er zelfs al een naam voor bedacht: ‘Bio Station Alpha’.

Maar wat Martines nu echt zag, blijkt stukken minder spannend. Althans, volgens de onderzoekers die de afbeelding hebben bestudeerd. Volgens hen gaat het hier om 'kosmische straling'. Dat bestaat uit deeltjes die worden uitgestoten door de zon en sterren. Op aarde hebben we er eigenlijk geen last van, omdat de magnetosfeer ons er tegen beschermt. Maar wanneer een camera daar boven aan het werk gaat, bijvoorbeeld van een satelliet, kan deze aangetast worden door de straling.

Die zorgt er dan ook voor dat pixels worden aangetast, waardoor een witte vlek ontstaan terwijl die er eigenlijk niet is... of toch wel?

 



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The newspaper who posted the news, now posted a rectification that experts who are not called by name say it is cosmic radiation witch caused this form.

Here is the direct link to the part in dutch, you can translate by google translate but the mainting the're saying is that it is a flaw in the picture caused by cosmic radiation hitting the satelite witch was making this picture at that time.

http://www.telegraaf.nl/buitenland/9980951/___Gebouw__op_Mars_blijkt_straling__.html?p=35,2

Mabye......

I don't know what to believe precisely, but i know for sure that we cannot be allone in this universe.



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goggog, the link you posted is what I was just using - but so far no luck!

Thanks!

 

 



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Well, so far no luck.

 

Anyone else who wants to give it a shot, might want to use this tool:

http://viewer.mars.asu.edu/#start

 



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  Here it is impossible to find pictures of area interesting to us?

http://viewer.mars.asu.edu/planetview/inst/themis#start



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If the absence reason обекта in a difference of time of shooting?



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Hmmm.  I see the google earth image I put up IS showing that it is a NASA/USGS image.

I'll see if I can track down the original source tomorrow if I get a chance.  (I thought this was ESA).

 

 

 

 



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Attempts to get closer at 100m and 50m scales don't really show any landscape that is out of the ordinary.

 

biostationat100m.jpg

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This is an ESA image.  The HRSC viewer can sometimes be of help.

http://hrscview.fu-berlin.de/

Click on any photo on that page, then enter the coordinates in the boxes on your left.

In this case, I used 71.49 N, 330.669 E (converting to east system coordinates).

But I got nothing... it appears this image does not have sufficient resolution:

 

 

 

biostationalpha5620marked.jpg

 

 

I can find the original ESA number on google earth tomorrow - but it should give us the identical view that google earth gives us.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



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Is there some NASA website where you can enter co-ordinates and find an original photo from NASA. So we can see if it exists in the original image?

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Well, it is on Google Earth.

71 49'19.73"N 29 33'06.53"W

 

It is somewhat distinct from the terrain in that area.

 

Apparently, he accidentally took down the original video, but he has put it back up on youtube:

 

biostationalphacut200x2refed.jpg

bioalphageenlarge.jpg

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Just to add my opinion, It is good to see the world interest in this anomaly, but I am not convinced it is what it seems, my major concern is the pattern of the pixels do not match the surroundings, to me it looks like it has been edited in (photo shop?), google have been known for red herrings and hoax's and it could be a google publicity stunt, ATS forums have covered this in some detail, but I have not seen any other images of the anomaly other than google Mars (hence my caution).



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I'm sorry for my entousiasm and not giving some direct link to te movie but i hope you forgive me.

Here is the reguested: The coörinates in google Earth/Mars are

 71 49'19.73"N 29 33'06.53"W

I find it dificult to enhance pictures and see shapes in a lot of postings i see but when i saw this little film, i could see a pattern and my personal opinion is that if this is not a glitch that there is something that is looking very organished for a dead planet. wink

and I'm using version:

 

Google Earth

6.0.3.2197

Datum van build

17-5-2011

Tijdstip van build

2:19:09

Renderer

DirectX 9

Besturingssysteem

Microsoft Windows (6.1.7601.1)

Videostuurprogramma

00001002 (00007.00014.00010.00304)

Maximale patroongrootte

16384x16384      



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SirHenry, I have problems seeing Youtube at the moment, could you post a link to an original official photo of this or even coordinats on Google Mars or a copy of the image maybe?

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I lookt up the coördinates and the building is there but its not that detailt as in the video

So maybe its already tempered with? I don't know..... because in the video it seems one of the best detailt buildings on mars i saw lately.

Hope some of the people here have still some beter material to work with.

I hope something is discovered soon that will proef for sure that we are not alone in this universe.


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I found something interesting in my country's online newspaper today 

and i didn't see anyting about it on the forum yet, I think this can be a big thing

so lets see what the veterans of this forum can do with the image, maybe they can clarify it someway and what is staggering is that somebody found it on google mars.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?22059-Bio-Station-Alpha-found-on-Mars.-The-latest-discovery-by-David-Martines.

or the youtube film and comment+ coördinates  by the online newspaper from the Netherlands

http://www.telegraaf.nl/buitenland/9958791/__Gebouw_gevonden_op_Mars___.html?p=24,1 

 

Hope i could be of any service by sharing the news. biggrin



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