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yes, the rat doesn't seem to leave alot of room for the rock and shadow debunk. lol.



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I swear I jumped off my chair when I saw the "rat"!!
And the rest of the evidence is stunning to say the least...
Great work guys, really thank you! thumbsup.gif


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this is a great thread!

xiriux, this pic and what i posted of possible other like things, make a good case for

something other than rocks on a stump. the depression is interesting. nest?

i think these things are up and walking around. storms? they just hunker down with the top flush to the ground. maybe it's some kind of shell to protect the animal underneath from radiation, etc.

i'd be excited if it was alive no matter what it was!



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Hi Chandre,

The image you have shown has id-number
2P134096077EFF2300P2369L7M1
and you can find it on Sol87 of Spirit.
By the way there is a better quality image captured on Sol88:
2P134171135EFF2300P2371L7M1,  which shows the same site but it is better exposed.


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Hi xiriux,
Surfing the images the other day I came across a site that had catalogued calibrated colour images of the Rover missions. I saved an image from it thinking the number would be sufficient to find it again....but no luck (guess I learnt another lesson).

I am going to post the image and an anomaly in it that resembles your 'chameleon' but seen from another perspective (its not the same one as yours as far as I can tell which is what makes it interesting)

The image number saved on my PC is 2-134096077-7 in case that helps anyone...

2-134096077-7.jpg

2-134096077-7-chameleon.jpg

Oh, and the reason I noticed it is because I was looking at the glyphs on the rock behind it.....wink

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Thanks Counter, thats an excellent resource of rover imagery. I especially like the fact they have anaglyphs from all sols!

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In case if anyone is looking for rat-like evidence presented by Xiriux, it is picture taken on SOL153 not 152 by Spirit panoramic camera. BTW I found better, more comfortable source of rovers images. It's  available here: http://mars.lyleresearch.com/ They've got also stereo images for all sols.


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Don't worry ARP2,

The Sol number superscripted on an image is calculated from its time-stamp.
Sometimes it does not match with image gallery sol number. In this case the subsequent or previous sol is correct.
In this case the correct Sol number is 196. Here is the link to the left image:
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/p/196/2P143762030EFF7600P2395L7M1.JPG

Do not hesitate to disclose your image.


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Hi Xiriuxz:

I love this thread too!!! Great evidence!!!

I followed thru on one of the links, Sol 195, looking for the "being" with the long neck but I couldn't find it... maybe I am not looking in the right area of the photo or perhaps it is another link??? Not sure.... Because I have an image from a different Sol that appears to be the same or a similar "being" with it's "head" laying down...  I hesitate to post unless I think they may be from same sol... hmm

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Real "Martian Faces" if these images were captured on Mars. Not only faces but heads or more.
"Anthropoid" evidences (stones? sculptures? dead-bodies?...) in the gallery.

The first is a nice object: voila Chewbacca!
It was captured near the Bonneville crater by navcam.

2N134089197EFF22FKP1883-st-majom-sötét-sol87.jpg

The monkey-like form is clearly appears in the picture. The lighter variant of this image is the following:

2N134089197EFF22FKP1883-st-majom-világos-sol87.jpg
It is visible that the monkey-like object is standing on four legs, and it is covered by a dark blanket or jacket. There is a strange shape on the side of the dark blanket (blue circled) : a circular symmetric disc-like thing with a central ball and with small knobs on its perimeter. It may be a communication unit or any marking.
The blue arrow points to a human-head-like object: it is similar to a bald head.
The extents of these object are very strange:
diameter of the "human-head": about 18-20 cm (like a real human head)
diameter of the head of "monkey": about 22 cm and its length is 25 cm,
body length of "monkey": about 60 cm,
height of "monkey back": about 45 cm.
Their distance from camera is about 19 m, so on the navcam image we can recognize details with extent 30 mm at least.
This image pair has an extra feature: the two images show movment.
Let's look at the left camera image:

2N134089197EFF22FKP1883L0M1-512.JPG
Check and fix careful the direction of the face of the monkey.
And now let's look at the right image:

2N134089197EFF22FKP1883R0M1-512.JPG
If you check the monkey-face you can see both eyes of the monkey unlike the previous image. The monkey looks leftward, i.e. the right camera should capture its head  more llaterally than the left camera if the monkey is statuelike. This position on the right image is optically impossible except the monkey has turned its head towards the camera in the time interval between the left and right image.
Ergo this "monkey" is able to move: it is alive or a robot with moving ability.
It is very strange circumstance that there is no (published) pancam images about this site.

By the way the Bonneville crater is an exciting site. See the wusbsequent images:

2P133290825EFF2232P2359-st-bonnevillefej1-sol77.jpg
The blue marked object resembles to a head. There is a dark kerchief or hood on it, although we can not exclude that it is a helmet without visor. The diameter of this "head" is about 12-13 cm, fairly small.


The other head-like evidence is known from a lot of alien-report:

2P133290825EFF2232P2359-st-bonnevillefej-szürke-sol77.jpg
Yes, it is very similar to a head of a short gray. Its diameter is about 11-12 cm, the distance of its "eyes" is about 3-4 cm, and they are covered by some reflecting dark hemispherical things. There is a strange disc-like shape on its right temple: its diameter is about 4 cm and is similar to the "monkey's" disc object.

At the foot of the Columbia Hills  was this find:

2P139052037EFF5500P2445-st-21-eskoponya-sol142.jpg
I call it as "skull No.21". It seems as a mummied skull with hood on it, and it is signed with figures "21".  It is strange, but its extent is about 20 cm, in size with human head.

On the Columbia Hills Spirit has found this astonishing evidence:

2P165682192EFFA978P2390-st-gyermekfej-3x.jpg
Perhaps is it a child in a seat for it?  The details of the face are very well visible. Its size is about 13 cm diameter and 17 cm head-height.  They match very weel with a human child head.

There are further head-like objects on the Columbia Hills:

2P196231166EFFAQAEP2395-st-két fej-sol787.jpg
They remind me to a rounded (left) and an elongated head. It is interesting that they are buried till neck in the sand. Their measures are much bigger than the human size: theis diameters are about 33 cm, and their head-heights are about 44 cm. Perhaps they are sculptures or if they are/were humanoids in that case their body heights are huge, over 3 m (considering the head/body size ratio).

The subsequent image presnts a very astonishing evidence:

2P191257131EFFAN00P2445-st-napszemüveges fej-sol731.jpg
The blue arrow points to a head (in very good status) with sunglasse on its eyes. If you check it careful you can see the side of spectacles from its right eye till its ear. There is a strange disc-like object on its right temple: it is similar to the "short gray's" disc. It may be a communication unit or a mrking?
The extent of the head is astonishingly in size of human head:
diameter is about 18-20 cm, the distance if eyes is about 7 cm.
It is strange that it is buried partially in the sand.
Its environment is pure sand, so the signal-to noise ratio is very good: there is no troubling image information around the head.

The last human-like evidence is a small group:

2P244522151EFFAVAQP2287-st-3 alak-sol1331.jpg
Blue arrow point to three human-like shapes.  The left side figure look toward the surface, the shape on right side has a white dress and a helmet-like thing on itself, and the shape in the middle has a dark dress or jacket on itself.
Look that the sunlight blinks on the top of the visor of helmet (the Sun is on zenith).
They are behind a small heap.
It is very strange that the diameters of these "heads" are in size of human head: their diameters are between 19 and 22 cm. The diameter of the helmet is about 38-40 cm, it visor is  about 25 cm.
There are some unnatural thing on this site:
the white arrows point to caps, the yellow arrow points to a gas-bottle-like object, and the black arrow points to a strange vehicle.
The image of this vehicle is magnified by 4 is on the next  photo:

2P244522151EFFAVAQP2287L7M1-256-jármű.JPG
The green arrow shows the body of the vehicle and the red ones point to its wheels. It is visible that the surface of the wheel is ribbed.
The size of the vehicle: width is about  1.5-2 m, the diameter of it wheel is about 50 cm.

The dark "humanoid figure" wears a jacket-like dress. My opinion is that it is similar to the jackent found on subsequent image (at Bonneville crater):

2P132046767EFF1500P2445-st-sol63-kabát.jpg
The most leftside blue arrows points to a strange disc-like thing that is visible on the jacket of the dark "humanoid". Look it careful, you can see that this evidence is not stone: the white arrow points to a button and a small strap, the yellow arrow points to a special patch (like a marking  or badges of rank), and the extent of the jacket-like evidence is very similar to a human-weared jacket: with about 21 cm shoulder an about 48 cm arm.




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Yes I do, but I have no idea what are they.
I have analyzed in 3D but the navcam images are not so detailed and in many cases they contain very dark parts.


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I see what you mean, your image is nice and clear. It is soooo strange ! Do you see a corresponding 'chimney' in the front of your image with three metallic looking spheres on it ? I do not know what it is that I have posted, it has a metallic feel to it and a very strange shape as well... it looked like something that could blow a bubble but it may be a vent or chimney ?

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Hi Chandre,
Ihave checked carefully the two images. 
The navcam takes photos with panning method: after capturing an image it rotates the navcam clockwise by about 35 degrees and in this new position takes the subsequent photo.
The image you inserted is the "neighbour" of  the "bubble-blower" image. Check it:
the dark object at left side of "your" photo is located at the right side of "my" photo, so the object you asked is not the blower.
I have magnified the contrast enhanced image by 2 and rotated it by about 18 degrees (to set the plane as horizontal), after cropping the bubble and its environment the result is below:

2N153362576EFF89BCP0615R0M1ROT-K2-2x-512.JPG
See the red arrow, it points to the bubble-blower (by my opinion).  It is resembles to a pipe or a chimney with diameter about 30 cm.  (the darker rectangle derived from a further local contrast enhanecement)

The object you highlighted has vary special shape, I don't know what is it.


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xiriux, they were in the same day sequence, yours is 2576 and these are 2626 so I think it is 50 seconds/minutes later ? See two white 'stripes' in crater on yours corresponds with stripes in crater on mine..



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Chandre,
are you sure that this image shows the same location as the "bubble location"?
I will check it and try to identify by stones abd surface details.

Papa, I analyzed your find in 3D and I think it is a stone or other similar behind the "animal", or it is part of the "animal".
The distance datas are(distance from camera):
"eye"  : 13.45 m
papa's object: 13.73 m
front of "animal" under the "eye":  13.53 m
front of "animal" under papa's object: 13.68 m
Sorry but these datas allow both version.



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xiriux, in addition to what I posted below. Another image that seems to be taken before/after ? Spirit moved 2N153362626EFF89BCP0615R0M1

Could that be the bubble blower ?

2N153362626EFF89BCP0615R0M1.jpg

2N153362626EFF89BCP0615R0M1-crop.jpg

2N153362626EFF89BCP0615R0M1-crop 2.jpg



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Nice post Xenon, there is a lot of strange detail in the inverted image.

xiriux, I have examined the bubble images. I think detractors would say the round bubble was a dust/vapour orb but I don't think they could say the same about the elongated bubble. It is very strange.

While looking at the images I noticed some NASaTY tampering in the foreground so I played around and came up with a 'rock' with some interesting angles. Seen in both images.

2N153362576EFF89BCP0615L0M1-crop.jpg

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Ok this anomaly has bugged me for a while now, as I can't make out if it is living or mechanical, I am not sure if it is as papa says a lever, or a mouth appendage, I have taken Papa's image and inverted the colour, and hey presto we have something that is in no way a rock......I must say I am getting a little excited with this one 

2P247013657EFFAW00P2410R1M1-8X-PÁNCÉLOS SZEME-SOL1359.jpg

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Papa, when pointed out like that it DOES look like a lever and more mechanical. There also appears to be a square indentation on the back which tampering has partly obscured. Nice inputjawdrop.gif

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the anomaly is pointed by the red arrow


By caforio at 2009-09-18

in other words, from the observation of the images posted and focusing n the lines i can see, the shape of the object could be the following



By caforio at 2009-09-18

now focus on the area pointed by the red arrow ; now maybe it's more easy to catch the impression i had about that appendix

i think could be a mechanical debris, partially ruined and covered by dust

the appendix ( notice also what seems a little elleptic hole where the appendix joint the object ) seems to me evident sign of artificiality of the object, but i donno if this maybe only suggestion or a shadow trick ( it doesn't seem so...) 



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Papa,
can you give the coordinates of the "lever-tongue", because I am not able to identify it among the debris.
Use please the original full image and the upper left corner as (0,0)  point.
Thanks in advance.


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@Xiriux
yes i'm speaking about Sol 1359

i see similarities between Sol 1359 and Sol 121 
in both cases seems to me we have objects  more similar to a mechanical debris than to a rock, and in both we have a sort of "appendix" : in Sol 121 what u called "thin worm" ( a wire maybe ) and in Sol 1359 what i called "lever-tongue" ( on the left of the object, very visibile in the close watch u posted ).

about the other 3d images, Sol 86 impressed me a lot, as it doesn't resemble a simple rock yet at a first distrac watch, its lines are too strange to be the product of nature, in my opinion.

 



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Xiriux, great collection. Rat looks very convincing, didn't know they have them on Mars as well, and that:

2P137193551EFF4204P2415R1-fregkint.jpg

resembles Seahorse to me:

Seahorse.jpg

Other pictures also very interesting :)

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Hi papa, what do you call as "last" image? The image from Sol1359?

I would be pleased indeed, if you would write what shapes do you see in 3D in images. It would help me later.



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Xiriux, really nice images and nicely presented in sequence ! Can't wait for my 3D glasses worry.gif

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the bubble is really strange
i am not sure for the others "animal.like" objects, but the last one is for sure something of anomalous.
as personal feeling, i think it's a piece of a mechancial device, it seems to me to see a couple of particulars that cannot match with the form of a stone.. as what it seem to ma a sort of lever ( or a "tongue" ) on the left of he object, partially hidden from the shadow

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Let us continue with some interesting animal-like evidences.
I should like to remonstrate that the word "animal-like" does not mean directly "alive" but means  the group of  features that are typical attributes of animals.
First of all I want to demonstrate a strange thing. Although we expect that a stereo camera pair take the photos simulteneously, but Spirit's navcam and pancam do not it.
The stereo image pairs have the same time-stamp, but right- and left images are captured at different moment (sometimes? always?...).

2N153362576EFF89BCP0615R0M1k-512.JPG
This image was captured on the west side of Columbia Hills, this is the right navcam image.  The patch pointed by yellow arrows is obviously a big bubble (with diameter about 2.4 m!), which is blown from the red arrow marked object on the surface. The shape of the bubble is fairly elongated, perhaps because of the gas blowing it.

See the next image:

2N153362576EFF89BCP0615L0M1k-512.JPG
In this left image the bubble has left the re arrow marked place and it moved  towards the valley.
These two images demonstrate clearly that they were captured in two different moments, not simultaneously.
I think we can suppose that images of any stereo image pair in Spirit image gallery were taken in different moments.
By the way the specifications of pancam or navcam do not mention that cameras take their photos simultaneously.
This feature of stereo cams allow us to discover  motion in Spirit images.

For example let's look at the subsequent photos:

2P137193551EFF4204P2415L7-féregbent.JPG
This is the left image. In the blue circle, pointed with yellow arrow a thin worm-like object is visible, that is partially in the fissure of the stone. Its shape is a straigth line.

2P137193551EFF4204P2415R1-féregkint.JPG
But here, in the right image this worm-like object obviously does not touch the stone, its shape is similar a bit to an 'S'.
The content of the two images are different because of this object. It means that in the interval between the left and right image this worm-like object has moved.
The stone is located in the right side of the original image, the fissure is on the right side of the stone, so the right camera should better "see" into the fissure, i.e. the worm-like thing  would not have this position without movement.
I think these two images were not too attractive but very important: there is movement in the site where images were taken.

The next image is a bit astonishing:

2P132046767EFF1500P2445-st-bárány-sol63.jpg
The yellow arrow points to a strange object: it resembles to a ram-head.  Its horn is clearly observable and the specific features of head of ovidae are well visible. The environmental "signal-to-noise ratio" is very good, there is not any disturbing  form near it. This head has anomalous position: it is separated from the "body" pointed by blue arrow. Its shape is similar of body of ovidae but legs are not visible. I think the material of this evidence is not stone: the form is too sophisticated and too fine. Look the "neck-piece": its texture is very fine, it is impossible to create from stone rather from metal or organic material. The length of the "head" is about 16 cm, its width is about 12 cm, the  length of the horn is about 12 cm, and the length of the "body" is about 30 cm. It is pretty small, so we can think it as statue, but in statue the eye is modeled usually as open and not as closed like here.

The subsequent picture is a bit awful:

2P135944089EFF3200P2393-st-rovar-4x-sol107.jpg
What is the pointed object? It resembles to a big beetle. Really? I don't know...
Its extent is serious: its length is about 30 cm.

And here is a very common animal-like evidence:

2P139938950EFF6406P2365-st-patkány-3x-sol152.jpg
The object pointed by the blue arrow is obviously resembles to a RAT.
The black arrow points to its tail. This rat-like evidence has almost all feature of a common "house-rat":  the length of its body is about 13 cm, it height is about 5cm. Its rounded ears and head with short nose and small eyes are very well visible. The environment is very "noiseless", there are sand and very small debris around it.

The next image presents a strange animal-like evidence with unknown shape:

2N134092487EFF2300P1838-st-csőrös-világos.jpg
The blue pointed object has very smooth surface and its shape is very similar to an animal with long neck , head and rostra.  The yellow arrow points to the "head". This form would be very instable and breakable if it would be made from stone.
Its extent is relatively large:  the width of the "body" is about 35 cm, the height  from the surface till top of the "head" is about 50 cm,  the length of the rostra is about 35 cm, and the diameter of its "eye" is about 2 cm.

This evidence is not alone: there is an other similar animal-like object in an other site, in the Columbia Hills:

2P143762030EFF7600P2395-csőrös--hüllő-sötét-3x.jpg
The blue marked evidence is the similar to the previous shape. The black arrows points to a  strange form, it is similar to the object on the next image:

2P180870281EFFAENLP2289L5M1-hüllő figyel-sol593.JPG
Tha orange marked object is stone? Or reptilian?

Without any comment and explanation  I display the subsequent two images: you can think about them what you want:

2P186737527EFFAJW6P2407-st-nagyállat-dög-sol680.jpg

2P186737527EFFAJW6P2407-st-kisállat-élő-sol680.jpg

And finally I should like to present the strange animal-like evidence that was found also by Humanoid:

2P247013809EFFAW00P2410-st-páncélos-sol1359.jpg
This strange, unknown animal-like object was captured on the Home Plate. The blue arrow points its very smooth back, the yellow arrow shows to its rounded head and its pop-eye. Its shape has symmetry.  As  I have written earlier its body-length is about 30 cm, its height is about 14 cm, head diameter is about 8 cm, and its eye diameter is about 3 cm with 1.5 cm pupil.
It is not alive.

I have magnified its eye to observ its structure.

2P247013657EFFAW00P2410R1M1-8X-PÁNCÉLOS SZEME-SOL1359.JPG
See the green marked eye: it has very common structure with concentric iris and pupil. The strange is that the contour of the iris is scalloped.


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Yes Chandre,
I remember his/her post. The disagreement between us was the extent of the object only.  He/she is very critical person with agressive and sometimes rude style, but I think he/she didn't want to deny or reject any clear and strong evidence.



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Should I order you a pair of those boots too Humanoid, anyone else ????eyepopping.gif

Xiriux, don't forget to include Winstons 'rat' comments in your post. It was something he did not debunk and credit to you for that !



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Thank you Xiriux for refreshing my memory, I knew I've seen it before somewhere! I went through the evidence you sent me again and can assure all members there are more exciting things to come! I especially like the rat evidence (sorry Xiriux, couldn't refrain myself from mentioning it biggrin)

Chandre, I'm sure you can find a pair online for your Martian tour biggrin

Xenon did you notice those big round bulged chameleon-like eyes? I'm sure it has 360° eyesight.

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It looks like a miniature of ARP2's 'snails'. They also had the 'hoverskirt' and protrusions. Nice find !

I think I am going to need thigh-high, teflon coated, lead moon boots for my proposed Martian tour one day. I'm going to check the net for a pair Humanoid biggrin

Still waiting for my glasses xiriux and then I will be able to comment....

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Humanoid that does look out of place to the surrounding geology, if you lower the contrast and adjust the colour you can see more detail, it looks like it has a syphon/tube at the front?, very nice find indeed.


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Yes Humanoid,

The site of Sol1359 is very exciting, it's rich in evidences.  Spirit has returned from the location of Sol1351 to this site to explore it.
This animal-like evidence is one of them I will present in the subsequent serie. You could meet it in the collection I sent you some months ago.
Its datas are:
distance from camera: about 14 m
length of "animal": about 30 cm considering the perspectivical foreshortening
height of "animal": about 14 cm
"head" diameter:  about 8 cm
"eye" diameter: about 3 cm
"pupil" diameter: about 1.5 cm



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Hi xiriux,

Image from sol 1359 is definitely interesting. Apart from the anomalous "whatizit" you have shown, there's this weird looking "stone" with a pair of eyes smile. It looks totally out of place! 


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Cute little Martian. biggrin
Can you tell us how big is it actually?



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Hi Humanoid,

I have written for this reason "bunch", because it seems that flowers are "packed" in a covering material.
Such bunch has solid shadow.


-- Edited by xiriux on Thursday 10th of September 2009 09:13:11 AM

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Hi xiriux, thanks for the Spirit evidence, keep it coming mate smile

I didn't have time to see it in more detail but I will. I like your first image- the "flower" and the shadow below it is strange. 



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Dear All,

after displaying a lot of thing-evidences I should like to show you some very exciting evidences that I have found in Spirit's gallery.
These evidences have so strange features that would be impossible if they were stones created by nature:
1. reproduced forms: several evidences have same or very similar form
2.  fine and sophisticated details
3. fairly exactly copied known shape and structure of known organism

In the first etap I show plant-like evidences found in gallery (I am sure that a careful investigator with good eyesight can find further similar evidences).

The first is a nice flower bunch:

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The blue arrow pointed object is very similar to a bunch of flower. Its diameter is only about 10 cm, and really we can recognize the shape of the stamens of flowers and the petals around them. The diameter of one "flower" is about 3 cm, but at this camera distance (8 m) the resolution is 4.4 mm/pixel, so we can recognize it with good result. It is possible that these "flowers" are artificial but in this case they are created by somebody.

The second evidence shows reproduction feature. I don't know what is it,  may be a plant or some similar, but the Spirit has captured them in different sites.
I call it as "white ball".

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The blue arrow points to the plant-like evidence. Its surface and its texture differs very much from the stones around it. Its extent: height 35 cm, diameter is 45 cm.
It is not alone: two other white balls were visible on the subsequent image:

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They are a bit larger: their diameter and height are about 50 cm, but their shape are as same as on the previous image.
This evidence has an other form: a double white ball, voila:

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The lower white ball is exactly equal to the first one, but the diameter of the upper ball is about 15 cm. It seems as a variant of the first ball.

The third plant-like evidence has also reprudiction feature, but its shape is unknown in the Earth. See below:

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The blue marked object has strange from: a dark fubby trunk-like form with 28 cm diameter and  30 cm height, and four sector-like things located round on the top of it. These sectors frame a light small basin with a small ball in its centre.

Such evidence was captured in an other site on Columbia Hills:

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See the object marked by yellow arrow. It is very similar to the previous plant-like object, but with about 40%  extent of it.
By the way the blue arrows point to a big mushroom-like object with diameter about 18 cm and height about 14 cm.

I think the early growing stage of this plant-like evidence is shown on the subsequent image:

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See the blue marked object. Its height is about 11 cm, its trunk is about 7 cm thick and the sector-like form on its top have about 3 cm size. Observe it, that around this object  is a ring of soil, that shows that this plant-like "whatizit" has grown out from the ground and not impacted into the soil. Its shape is unknown on the Earth, my opinion is that it is/was an organic structure.

In the next part I will present  some animal-like evidences.


-- Edited by xiriux on Wednesday 9th of September 2009 05:06:14 PM

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