Alien Anomalies

gbull wrote:

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but i will say, the shadow, even with the rise in front still doesn't add up.

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gbull, the whole image does not add up, but the lessons this thread has taught us about tampering is priceless!!!

Harry,
I'm afraid, you have misunderstood my post regarding the shadow.
Of course, the angular cut is a sharp light stone in the foreground of the block.
That fact is very well visible in 3D.  The problem is that you interpreted  the block with a wide "nose" although the 3D analyzing shows it as a narrow part of the block. Check it in anaglyph image. With wide "nose" the shadow has different contour on the rspective side.
You wrote that the original shadow was removed and substitued. Why did it someone???  It makes no sense.
I don't know what do you expect from this poor stone: its diagonal is about 14 cm, so its edges are about 10 cm (quasi cube form), so it is not too big object.
I suggest you to analyze this block in an other image captured from an other viewing angle on Sol461. I hope you will create exactly these pixel configurations.
And do not forget please: if you want to recognize any shape, it is necessary that its smallest  characteristic detail should be bigger than 2x2 pixel (in the original image), this is the basic rule of sampling (by Shannon).
P.S. Your method to create lightened surface from a deep-shadowed area is problematic. The jpg compression rate is too high, the brightness interval of the shadowed area is too narrow (about 26), you decreased the white-threshold too low holding the black-threshold at 0, the blurring was too strong and the interpolation distorted the brightness ratios between the original neighbour pixels.

And finally The  Notorious avatar which kicked off my great, heartfelt chat with HUMANOID!!!!

Take care all!

Humanoid... your talking yourself into a corner. You really need to read the posts you so desperately guard.   Oh by the way I found  curious soul trying to hack my Machine.. Thats why I wanted everthing shut down.

At the end of my last post I stated:
"I need to see other ways of revealing darkness. Being honest this isnt the sought of object I would reveal. It workds better on larger subjects."

This object basically had its lights turned off in the shade.  Your attempt  (though poor , is good) but you have not the slightest idea what your looking at or what to look for . Youve got the situation worked out ,  as i looked at your attempt I reflected over your profound words
" I'm not into image processing but I happen to know a little about it and its just enough for me to be aware of the fact that image obfuscation cannot be reversed fully back due to the "way it works". Encryption techniques keep the protected original, image tampering destroys the original fully or to a certain degree (depends on technique used). If you want more in depth explanation give us a shout and I'll PM you back."

Long words... not saying very much to me as im finding the objects that you say , cant be seen.  I have to say not all images can be treated. Im not sure what your trying to convince me of. You should.ve shown your talents much earlier and reveal the block to be nothing but a lump of strange molton rock!!?? Do you mean to tell me that what youve produced proves me wrong? Do you really think that shiney object comes close to a 25 minute walkover by me, while eating my  toast. I said to you once (prophetically) and i'll say it again to you and many others. You cannot and will not beable to understand these races if you still come out with the same , lame excuses for not looking harder, i havent seen any attempt by you prior to me apearing on the seen. oh, ok pointing out the so called unencrypted anomaly with a red squiggaly circle. . well done !



To encrypt an image is no problem. To see it again you need to decrypt it. So , i ask you . What are you looking at?  an image? or an encrypted image. The jargon used online today still takes my breath away. Have you ever encryupted an image? Can u view an encrypted image? Can you encrypt  pixel number 8 and leave pixels 1234567 and 9? open your mind and listen to what your saying. Im pretty sure of what im saying. Have you ever heard of an air brush? The early apollo missions from 8-15 used basic airbrushing tecniques. Ive seen the doodles of the cleaners before they covered up images. They try to trace the image to understand it befoire covering up. The image below partially still remains.  If you just look without doing anything you can see the remains of the "so called" encrypted cover up.  Really Humanoid, you should know better than to drag out the encryption of cloaked images old chestnut. The public get one set of images (Doctored) and the real bad scarey stuff stays with the owners.

In my earliest posts I stated.  " Hi all, An update on the Unusual feature "Block, Rock Or Noah's arc""

I had already worked out what this was by just looking into   the dark. I mention a water theme.. due to .. well i dont need to tell you because its impossible to deduce an images state when COVERED no I mean "so called " encrypted.

Really if we are to find the truth then the truth we must understand. If we dont then learn.  Im taking the hardest path in this infernal nightmare. No more BS from anyone with the techno verbals . Whats F....ing amazed me that you are all still naval gazing when the answer you seek is staring you in the face! Its just not what you expected.  Its not cool or clean and its damed hard to understand. Yup, its ALIEN!!!

Can you see what  block image is as a whole.  humanoid? Can you see?

1. Lions Head ( your still trying to come to terms with that) I understand, its tuff when the bear in the room turns round as says HI!
2. Eagles Head. ( Thank Christ there are some people whom doggedly checked and didnt just sit back and patronize me!
3. Your wonderful block.. That seemd to be the focus of the site for you.
4. I mentioned Temple and water
5. Chandre mention seeing some kind of blue berry or something .

Going by what you say, parts of the originally posted image must be encrypted? So do you rekon theres nothing else to reveal? Stay  away from the shadows as by your example youve got that buttoned down. Is there anything else?  I watch with great expectations.

You are a raw talent whom hasnt got a clue about what really is in front of you.  I think Xenon and Chandre should look at what these images has really revealed lolol.

Humanoid... What an appropriate name. 

What are you looking Humanoid?
Humanoids?
Or is this just a game to you.

Really .. what im gonna do is stay in touch with Chandre and Xenon.

And please quote what I said about Skipper...

Xenon, Chandre,

I have written about Rorschach-test because Harry speeks about 2d image. Lightened and shadowed areas on a 2D image essentially less differ from ink blots  of Rorschach-test. The main question: how do you identify them?
Except few cases when the shape to be identified is unambigous,  this is the main problem with 2D Spirit images.
If you use 3D method, you receive twice 2D information about the same object, and in addition you can receive further informations in direction of the third coordinate axis. Therefore the identification and recognition in 3D much better than in 2D.
For example Harry sees glyphs in 2D image but the 3D variant shows only small pits made by erosion or other mechanical effect. So I can't identify these shapes as glyphs but as any natural forms.
Harry, you have made an error in "decoding" the image of the strange stone:
the shape of the "decoded" stone is not in accordance with its shadow.
Check it.

Welcome back to the forum harry, it takes a lot of courage in what you have done, and I am happy my words where useful for you

I feel Humanoid was concerned for the reputation of the forum with his last post (a little tactless I agree), Humanoid is an important part of the team that has come together with organising the PTP, his knowledge and intelligence is the reason why he earned moderator status (part of which is securing the site from trolls), and I am sure he has some thoughts of his own on the subject.

I too was concerned, but after me being awake for the best part of 72 hours was unable offer a solution at the time, and Chandre is capable of taking over the reigns when I am not able, and has a lovely way of putting things into perspective to people.

We are in the middle of trying to organise your request and may have the problem resolved tomorrow.

Best wishes

Xenon

Thanks Chandre and Xenon.

@Chandre: Wonderful work... Just lovely. Thanks for your diligence. and supportive words..  I'll send you the plants on stone (when i get time). Also your not gonna believe this but salvadors painting (you kindly pointed towards) has images hidden , Would you believe it lolol.  Great work kid.

@Xenon: Thanks for your words of strength and your attempt to mediate the problem. This is no time for egos as they are the very types that started this whole nightmare. I have no time for them .  Understanding is needed , if they find that difficult they should be weeded out!!!! This is a sensative subject and not something to be mocked over.
Your points are noted ... but Humanoid has a problem! Me!

@Humanoid:...  Its sad that you will miss some of the greatest discoveries in imagery,due to your impatience.  I give you a small gift... Dont choke on it, as it will be the last from me for you. I find you an irritation. Learn how too moderate properly and maybe nubes (like me ) will work out whats going on with your world. Your sarcasm bores me , you really need to relax a bit. Maybe then you'll find what youre looking for.



I spent 25 minutes on this (i do time myself).  It needs a week , at least , which im not prepared to do. My techniques woks better on the moon.

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Thanks

Ps if you can do better please post up. I need to see other ways of revealing darkness. Being honest this isnt the sought of object I would reveal. It workds better on larger subjects.

LOL, that would be a first for me !

Problem is this does not look like an ink blot ??.......



Ok, I admit this does and I must apologise for the messy blue lines ..... (oops and got the eye wrong, its more to the right)



And talking about ink blot tests....there seems to be a wolf there as well....

Hi everyone,
With thanks to Harry, lets show you what looking deeper at this image has revealed.

1. The orange highlight is the lion, the blue highlight is the eagle (apologies if its off but that is the closest I can come to seeing it)


2. This is Harrys avatar with the glyph

3. This is the original image with the glyph, I am not highlighting it as it should be very clear to most viewers

4. In answer to the blueberries... I ,like Skipper, believe that these are a form of funghi that grow in areas that hold some moisture. They sometimes grow on stalks, no inorganic substance appears to do that from the research I have done but I am open to correction. The blueberries in this image are gathered in the areas that still have moisture trapped or seeping into it. I don't know the significance of this other than to indicate that there may still be an operational water source on or under the head area indicating that this may have once been covered with water and the flower fountain may not have been a flight of fancy ?

If you can see anything else please share.

Hi Harry
You are right, the moment I could see your avatar I realised it. I had looked at the tampering over the eye but then I discounted it. I should have looked a bit closer.
I see the 'flower-key' and you did hint at it enough times as well as the glyph resembling A or 4 and 2 or 8. It is a smoking-gun ! There are more but not very clear so I will have to work on them. I can see a partial human head on yours, ears look different and it does not have a good 'feel' about it. I can't see the eagle but thats no surprise as I normally can't see the faces (Edit, now I CAN see the eagles head very clearly when I reread your posts and you told us where to look - thanks). I will look at it more closely. While you are taking a break and to rest your eyes, look at some of Salvador Dalis work especially one called ' Two pieces of bread expressing the sentiment of love'. I think you'll enjoy it !

-- Edited by Chandre on Monday 21st of September 2009 07:21:43 AM

NO PLAYING GAMES
You've been WARNED Harry
Next you'll be BANNED!!

-- Edited by Humanoid on Sunday 20th of September 2009 10:27:53 PM

So Harry, as best as I understood you are not yet prepared to share with us even one single picture of your "UNCONFIRMED hard work" and that is your right. Fair enough. But would you please at least apply your magic technique to our images, say "Block, Rock or Noah's Ark" image and show us what's under all the tampering? I can see the lion's head, brow or whatever but it is an illusion, nothing real. What I'd like to see is some real tampering-free stuff here!

As for any potential anomalies in your avatar, sorry but the only anomaly I see in it is "©Harry All Rights Reserved"! So I'll ask you once again- Can you please post the image from your avatar for us all to see the glyphs?



-- Edited by Humanoid on Monday 21st of September 2009 01:00:04 AM

I loved the image of the avatar but realized it had glyphs in. I pulled it thinking that one of you guys would find it in the original image. Now I ve decided to use it. Its an avatar of the glyphs I found. I can change my mind on what avatar i want to use. I changed it back. I also Made reference to it to help thosE  souls whom were not looking in the right place.. (lions brow!!!!!) Im not going to draw a red line around the eagles head as this in noway  helps others to find anything.  The who0le culture of these images is in looking in 3-4 ways at the sametime.
I leave the Scientific stuff to u guys. Just dont get lost in your own algorythmic thoughts.  Its been known to blind us to the blindingly obvious.

Im here and contributing and trying to be fair.. meaning I edit ALOT.

@Chandre : The berries... exactly what I noticed..  they're all over the stones.

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Ok Harry thank you very much for your brilliant contribution in providing the image with the official link, but I already done that (if you realize it).

What I meant is the post you deleted and your reference to the image seen as your avatar. Any bells ringing? In future please refrain from asking us to look for anomalies in your avatar (???) as this really doesn't make any sense and I hope you do realize it!

As for below image I don't see any other real anomalies besides the strange stone and its awkward balancing. Also it will help if you insert keys in any images you may wish to include. Cheers 

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I now see that you have deleted your avatar as well.....hmm

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-- Edited by harry12bar on Sunday 20th of September 2009 09:51:39 PM

Hi Harry
I understand Humanoids frustration as part of our normal dialogue on this forum when discussing our views is to illustrate what we are saying with images and the links so everyone can go and look for themselves. I also understand that you are trying to teach us how to see things differently in an effort to get to the same place you are in.
Yes, this image is worth deeper investigation as you point out other items we are looking more deeply. A bit like peeling off the layers of an onion.  I myself have examined the block more closely and I can see that the surface has a three dimensional aspect that tiny as it is throws shadows that I did not notice before. I also see blueberries, supposedly caused by water action, in strategic places on the rock. I see stairs coming up the one side leading around the image and going down the other side. I imagine that the 'flowers' on the block may have sprayed steam or water as part of a cleansing ritual, I imagine that this site was elevated.... but it all boils down to two words. I IMAGINE.
Your input is encouraging us on flights of fantasy, which is good in trying to understand the images and possible culture/religion of the former occupants of this area of Mars, but not constructive from a scientific viewpoint and not in keeping with our goals of creating a library of 'scientific' evidence to present to people that will visit our site in the future.
We need concrete proof of the culture that existed on Mars and you will see from reading the posts on this site that we are determined to find as much as we can. The 'lion/leopard/cat' image is clear but we know how easily 'faces' are discounted by the media. Now if we had a clearer image of what is on that stone it would be another story.
I realise that you are in a predicament, you have discovered something that you believe is important and you don't know if you are ready to share it. Maybe you are worried about being ridiculed or disproved ? I felt the same way and yet I posted my 'Mulled Wine and Mermaids' theory and I worked as hard as I could on the 'Colossal Head Anomaly' to prove what I thought. Others do not agree or see it in the same light, but that doesn't matter. What matters is I opened myself up and put it out there. Frankly, I don't care what other people think ! All thats important is that I stood up and spoke my truth as I saw it and I felt so much better for that after the fact.
You are amongst friends on this site, there are no trolls here. Post what you are comfortable with, people will or won't comment as they see fit. If they do comment it will be with their opinions and they may give you more to work on or offer a different perspective. You don't have to share your technology, just the result of it. Apply it to the images we have posted if you want, but it IS frustrating when you hint at things that you can see clearly but we can't. We are serious about what we are doing, we want to contribute to the PTP movement with the work we are doing here, we love a challenge...but we don't like to play games. 

 

@Humanoid... playing games? you do realize that we are talking about an image that is in this forum with official link?? If not here it is(below, link after image). Im contributing towards it. But if there is an image you want looked at  - let me know.

If you dont get the idea how to view our neighbors doodles/ art/ religion/ culture,  then how the hell will you,  or I talk less of anyone else, going to understand and find their evidence. The lions head is clear. Not fuzzed. Not hidden, and oh , by the way it just happens to be on Mars!! Now is that anomaly? 

Even without removing tampering its whispering quite loudly " LOOK AT ME MORE CLOSELY ! "  Now if thats not good enough for you then im sorry. You have just brushed aside you first, bright, clean, untampered with anomaly. I think these guys have pulled something up pretty special. They have taken the time to study and discuss details. Thats caught my attention and i aim to join them on it.   There is a lot to assimilate in this image but the obviuse has to be found first.  then forensically peal this site apart. Well thats what Im doing.
SO let the Games Begin.


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-- Edited by harry12bar on Saturday 19th of September 2009 12:31:26 AM

-- Edited by harry12bar on Saturday 19th of September 2009 09:47:14 AM

. Yup big Cat..Now you'll come to terms with a startling fact. Every rock crack stone is there for a purpose.  

-- Edited by harry12bar on Friday 18th of September 2009 10:37:15 PM

A leopard ? Or if those stone are part of it and there are crests there, then maybe a dragon ?

Hi harry. There is a lot of NASaTY tampering in this image. I think I can see the steps you mention at just before, on 12 o'clock, and just after 12 above the block. The tampering makes it look like sand banked up against the three rocks but if you look closely you can see the blurring. Is that the correct spot ?

Hi all, An update on the Unusual feature "Block, Rock Or Noah's arc".



The entire site around the block seems to have sunk/submerged in water or mud.
The site is more like a temple,
Top left central hints of wide steps and Block is plumb in center of main section of site.
Tampering used almost 100% of image. There is an unusual amount of tampering on Block which (when cleaned) has  interesting  diorama.
The Angular cut into bottom left shadow of Block is actually an object in the fore ground.
Water seems to be a theme (My Opinion)

Harry

-- Edited by harry12bar on Friday 18th of September 2009 12:36:19 AM

Chandre, to be 'romantic' is not an accusation but a nice attribute. Keep and maintain it till end of your life.

Hi , Beautiful image.. Ive seen these before i think .  It maybe a representation of a flower... Water actually flows through top.and down stone channels
The leaves are on the lighter upside of the rock. you can make them out.
.. attached to structure long ago

-- Edited by harry12bar on Wednesday 16th of September 2009 03:52:10 PM

Hi Humanoid
The image is clear enough, I know the others wont be any better. The marking that interests me is visible in both. I've highlighted it below. Reminds me of a coptic cross but I am sure that it's something more functional. I know that ARP2 posted this and I remarked that the stone looked like an opal in the colour version but I think they may have altered it to hide this anomaly ?



Papa, you're right. The stone does look like a similiar skull to Hoaglands lunar one with the red mask on it. Creepy !

Hi Chandre, I know resolution is NASaTY
Unfortunately .img files at PDS ain't any better either, contrary to what Winston would have us believe! Anyway if you want to see for yourself I can look for this image at PDS?

-- Edited by Humanoid on Monday 14th of September 2009 09:32:59 PM