Alien Anomalies

Morbius · Veteran Member

RE: Photo Tampering - Victoria Crater - Cape St. Vincent

rdunk · Member

Morbius wrote:

Your gonna post " two obvious (?) anomalies " .. and inquire what we think they are ? I'm game .. bringem on rdunk, and will, as usual, look forward to your post. / -M
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Morbius, maybe I wasn't clear enough, or maybe you didn't scroll down far enough on my last post, that referred to the "two obvious anomalies". I attached a screenshot that specifically pointed out those anomalies in that post. And with these two anomalies, anomaly means "completely abnormal to what should exist on the side of a rock cliff"!!!

I do certainly think there is a lot more going-on/has-gone on there than we are even prepared to imagine. Hopefully time and dilligent work by many will help bring out the true revelation for all to know. Thus far, we mostly are just identifying litttle bits and pieces - - what we really need is a release of the absolute original photos of this Cape, and every other original taken by NASA/taxpayer cameras!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Therein we should find the truth, and not have to keep monkeying around with this obfuscated stuff.

Morbius · Veteran Member

howdy rdunk . Our boots been stompin over that cliff so much lately I'm suprised it's not pulverized down into unrecognizable flatlands by now. I realize we get sidetracked at times here, but, as you state .. this thread is still about tampering .. I agree. However, I don't agree that, beside the Pharoah, is a Martian Coke bottle !! I don't like Coke .. mabee Pepsi though ( I know .. heeelp .. get me outta here! ). Am attaching ( -just had to add that ) a tuned-up and ( hopefully ) closer view of the anomaly in question, and kinda get the impression that it's a snowed-over soldier/statue/bas relief/whatever .. so .. see what you think on this .

Your gonna post " two obvious (?) anomalies " .. and inquire what we think they are ? I'm game .. bringem on rdunk, and will, as usual, look forward to your post. / -M

-just thought .. feel free to use the attached as demo if you wish .. caution .. that phoney snow is still flying around them fake cliffs .. hardhat may be required! confuse

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Morbius · Veteran Member

Once again rdunk, you demonstrate a mighty fine way with words. Puts a breath of fresh air in the room, and a little sparkle in my soul too. Not patronizing, just an accurate observation freely given.

The issues of disclosure, for ' off-worlders ' and advanced technology, of releasing the true pics to us, of the WTC truth .. and cover-ups that go on year after year after year .. are most vexing to me. I then sometimes think, despite all our best efforts here, it will not be in my lifetime. I know that often I get impatient and pushy .. to pushy at times .. in trying to accellerate things some. I realize now .. I should be more relaxed and at ease, and let things go on as the ' great unknown overplan ' unfolds around and about us.

You rdunk, and Q, Macten and Causality, and Ken A too, have all spoken well on this matter, and each of you, in your own way, and reply, have shown an understanding of this situation, and for this it is greatly appreciated .. thank you.

There is one more thought, if I may, to put before you .. was eventually going to pin it on the boards somewhere, but it ties in so nicely .. may as well present it here and now.

To the point then, I mentioned the WTC/9/11 horror for a reason. Did you think that one plane .. I don't care how big .. or .. I don't care how many gallons of gasoline .. is going to bring down a 110 story building in 30 seconds?! I don't. Neither, after examining the evidence, does 1700+ professionals .. AE911Truth, or Architects and Engineers for 9/11TRUTH .. who are calling on a new investigation of the destruction of the WTC on 9/11.

Now, lets transfer this scene to our own anomaly work here. Shurly if our best and most convincing research was presented, would there not then be tens of thousands of professional photographers, Image Analysts and the like .. who would bring their vast expertise and powerful analyitic programs to bear on this data mine of ours? Could not they assemble and produce an undeniable, irrefutable and unmistakable case to evidence and near compell disclosure? Disclosure of what we have rightfully paid for, and then some, in the first place?

Shure, there would be massive opposition by those very same who have and control those very pristine pictures and attendant data. Who smugly claim we are ' not ready or fit for this yet ' and we ' couldn't handle the truth ' anyways. Yes Q .. why amass intel and aim it at one Cliif .. when we can do in the whole space-program at once?! So .. what do you think about that ?!!

I feel like closing with a quote from one of my ( new ) favourite writers here. " just my thoughts ." Cheers / - Morbius

rdunk · Member

Morbius said,

Hey rdunk .. have you noticed the dearth of voices in the Halls of AA, the absence of postings on the walls ? I have .. it's like a dead silence about us. Then again, perhaps they are at the Carneia Festival ... the Carneia ..? Yes .. alright rdunk .. it's about time for a good Story anyways.

Morbius, it has seemed to me that AA has been pretty slow, as a place of discussion, for most of my member time here. And part of that time i wasn't posting here either. As others have said, all of us have differing schedules, with some working, some retired, and some...............? :) And certainly, as with any forum, not all anomaly posts generate the same level of interest to us individually, and such does impact the level of "replies".

And then when we consider the fact that there are only 229 members members here, then probably infrequent replies should be expected at times, even though we all like to get on into active discussion when we can.

Just my thoughts.

rdunk · Member

qmantoo wrote:
Sometimes we are all doing something else at the same time. It is not that we have given up being interested in this stuff, but that we have other more important things to do. There are not enough minutes in the day for all the things I want to do, so something has to go unfortunately.
I found this overhang which looks rather artificial and very like an entrance to a cave or where they land their craft. That round thing in the entrance is interesting as we have seen those 'orbs' as spacecraft in Moon pictures.
The first image below shows the areas where the image is completely black (where the value of the pixels are 0,0,0. If this is in a block, it is likely that someone has painted in a blob of black. These are just shaded areas and could be natural image blackness.
I always think that is a representation of a Martian Coke bottle that is in bas relief right next to the Egyptian like statue.
The cliff has many symbolic carvings and hieroglyphic writing on it and that is why it has been obfuscated in a sloppy manner with those horizontal lines that are all over the place and the bubbly effervescence dappling in the dark shady areas.

Q, I certainly agree with your thoughts about this Cape. And one thing I can't let pass, since you posted the pics, are two obvious to me anomalies. I have been looking at these objects everytime i come back to look at Cape St. Vincentfor quite a long time. Sooooooooooo, I am going to insert them here too, because somehow, the "tampering" still has left these visible.

No, I don't know what they are! Theu both have an obvious intelligent design appearance. One object is flat, and the other has somewhat of a molded design, with straight edges and rounded corners.

Most of you who have looked at the photos have probably noticed these too. I will post another copy of Q's screenshot, and have added arrows to pinpoint each of these objects.

What do some of you think these are? (and yes, we are still talking about tampering in this thread)

-- Edited by rdunk on Monday 29th of April 2013 01:58:39 AM

-- Edited by rdunk on Monday 29th of April 2013 06:32:01 AM

qmantoo · Teaching the truth

Maybe it is time to collect together all links to victoria crater which show pace st vincent and to see if we can spot these features from another angle. There must be other images as this is a vry well-known place on Mars and one where the rovers spent a lot of time messing about.

I have a feeling that there is a place where craft come and go from at the loation of my image above as the squarish overhang and the round 'hole" in the rock face a little bit nearer and above the place where the half-round orb-object is showing.

Macten · Veteran Member

Sometimes the lack of replies or posts is because you have done too good of a job and there is not much else to add. Others dont post because they dont agree but dont want to ruffle feathers. Personally I have 4 projects going on at the same time and its getting into camping and riding season. I dont belive there is any way past this type of obfuscation, Nasa or JPL has done its job well.

I have only gone through 200 of the Spirit Sols and found countless odditys. Only a couple thousand more of those to go thru, then the Opportunity stuff, Then the LRO pics and finally the Curiosity pics. there is not enough time left in my life to do all that and have a real life too. I'm sure others here are of the same opinion.

Ken A · Member

qmantoo wrote:
Sometimes we are all doing something else at the same time. It is not that we have given up being interested in this stuff, but that we have other more important things to do. There are not enough minutes in the day for all the things I want to do, so something has to go unfortunately.
I found this overhang which looks rather artificial and very like an entrance to a cave or where they land their craft. That round thing in the entrance is interesting as we have seen those 'orbs' as spacecraft in Moon pictures.
The first image below shows the areas where the image is completely black (where the value of the pixels are 0,0,0. If this is in a block, it is likely that someone has painted in a blob of black. These are just shaded areas and could be natural image blackness.

I always think that is a representation of a Martian Coke bottle that is in bas relief right next to the Egyptian like statue.

The cliff has many symbolic carvings and hieroglyphic writing on it and that is why it has been obfuscated in a sloppy manner with those horizontal lines that are all over the place and the bubbly effervescence dappling in the dark shady areas.

qmantoo · Teaching the truth

Sometimes we are all doing something else at the same time. It is not that we have given up being interested in this stuff, but that we have other more important things to do. There are not enough minutes in the day for all the things I want to do, so something has to go unfortunately.

I found this overhang which looks rather artificial and very like an entrance to a cave or where they land their craft. That round thing in the entrance is interesting as we have seen those 'orbs' as spacecraft in Moon pictures.

The first image below shows the areas where the image is completely black (where the value of the pixels are 0,0,0. If this is in a block, it is likely that someone has painted in a blob of black. These are just shaded areas and could be natural image blackness.

Causality · Member

Do not worry about the lack of posts in the forum Morbius. I think you’re doing a good job and even if I do not post anything my selves, I do follow what is published here with great interest.

And the most important thing in my opinion is the quality not the quantity of what is reported.

Personally, I have chosen not to post anything until I can present something that is distinctly odd. Meanwhile, I´ll watch and learn from those who have more experience.

Paxvobiscum

//Causality

Morbius · Veteran Member

What do I think ... I think your right again rdunk. I see what you are showing ... it appears this was caused by a single swipe of the brush or airbrush, over the two adjoining areas. I also believe you are right in calling it a ' walkway ', for one of the reasons for tampering was to conceal the multiple, and readily visible, staircases and walkways showing against the ( original ) cliffside. I think if we asked any competent field geologist, as to the cliff as a geo-formation, with such ' natural ' features as crumbling walls, earthquake shifts, hydro-action, even war/s, -I think he would say ... it just dosen't make any sense. We are making a good beginning to show some of the true nature of the Cliff site. Mabee, someday, we will be able to see and compare it with the originals ... and see just how close we were to the truth in our findings. If not, then our children, or grandchildren.. they will find out, and say ... you know .. they were right.

Hey rdunk .. have you noticed the dearth of voices in the Halls of AA, the absence of postings on the walls ? I have .. it's like a dead silence about us. Then again, perhaps they are at the Carneia Festival ... the Carneia ..? Yes .. alright rdunk .. it's about time for a good Story anyways.

Once, a long time ago, the might of the Persian army was advancing upon Greece. At the time, the people of Sparta were holding their sacred festival .. the Carneia, and would not make war or take up arms during this special season. Their king however, Leonidas, knew better and took his personal bodyguard to a narrow and strategic pass in the mountains which controlled the only road between Thessaly and Central Greece. A position they could defend ... and gain time for the Greeks to mobilize. So there they stationed themselves ... and there they died .. at Thermopylae. I know .. there are many versions, and the details vary in this amazing story passed on to us these 24 centuries ... but it is the same. Iceman knows this too. In the Nordic Saga, Grimnismal ( 24 ), it is related that in the twilight of the gods and earth, there will stream forth from the gates of Odin's Great-Hall, 432,000 warriors, to defend against that great predator Fenrir ...the Cosmic Wolf. Yes rdunk, they are the same ... and in some small way, I think we be true to maintain the good Standards and guard the Walls of AA till our comrades do assemble beside us to man the battlements of Castle Keep .. our AA Home. We are only as strong as the soldier next to us rdunk .. what do you say? / -M

rdunk · Member

Ok, the next tampering evidence I am posting is in a more visible place on Cape Vincent, and it is also pretty obvious, when one actually takes the time to "see it". It is in an area above the Egyptian, and is in the "walkway" that is easy to see. There are actually two pieces of evidence here, and I will specifically point out each of these in a screenshot.

One of the pieces of evidence shows that the "tampered texturing" extends over/out-into a part of a large opening - it has the look of an arched door-like opening. This opening is in the wall on the left of this walkway, and one can see the texturing as it extends over a part of this opening.

The other piece of evidence is texturing over a rock face - - - - and there seems to be no rock there, just the texturing. The texturing seems to have been put into the open air, maybe to hide something else?? This tampering piece is at the opposite end of the walkway. It is a piece of "dark texturing", is about the width of the walkway, and we can see the "straight-edges of it across the top, and down its right side. But it is pretty obvious that this texturing is just put there, as we can see the rocky areas below and to the rear of it. To me, this is very obviously "tampering", and is not a natural part of this photo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What do you think?

For member convience, I will post again a link to the full Rover Opportunity photo, and a screenshot with decription locators.

http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/tiff/PIA10210.tif

-- Edited by rdunk on Wednesday 24th of April 2013 03:50:41 AM

rdunk · Member

Morbius said, "One last point here .. we must have been working independantly and unknowningly on the same idea for posting, and if you feel this post/reply has been intrusive on your work in any way. I will gladly retract or remove it. I do however, feel that the two works are but complimentary and can but strengthen the overall case itself".

Morbius, for me, there can be no "intrusion" in this anomaly stuff! The more we can work together on these things, the better our knowledge of the "real" reality of what is on the planet Mars, and where ever. I really realy do appreciate your inciteful thoughts and comments. I was begnning to wonder about this, as thus far there have been 102 views, with only one reply - yours. So, I was beginning to think that no one else was even able to see what I was seeing here. Well, your reply has cleared that up!

Sometimes when we are trying to explain what we are seeing, just the right description words come slowly. I especially like your words for what WE are seeing here - - "it looks like a swirl of wind-swept snow flying around a barn corner as such .. and like the snow is not part of the barn ... neither is the cliff 'snow job' .. a part of the cliff either". Morbius, I really like the way you put that, as it so vividly expresses exactly what I too am seeing, and what everyone should be able to see.

There is no way for us to know whether there is actually anything on this "lower cliff" that actually needed to be hidden, or, was this some type of computerized cover-up application that somehow erred? I lean toward computer program, because there is no way a serious manual cover-up would have left untouched, the Egyptian statue, and the several other note worthy anomalies we can "still see" here.

For me, this is "clear evidence" of obfuscation/tampering, in an area where there is "clear evidence" of intelligent design.

Yes, Morbius, it is very likely that this entire cliffside had (has) much in the original photos to prove beyond doubt the fact of intelligent people having been on this planet, at some point in time, even if not there now!!

My next reply on this OP will be to show another obfuscation error that is even more easily seen than is this one.

All reply comments are welcome, and the posting of other tampering evidence on this Cape is always invited!!

-- Edited by rdunk on Tuesday 23rd of April 2013 08:44:16 PM

Morbius · Veteran Member

You're a keen spotter with a good instinct for detail and out of place phenomena rdunk, as demonstrated in such as the Cliff/Obfuscation scene you have so aptly presented here. And as you have, in my opinion, correctly surmised, the entire cliff is a veritable montage/collage ... an assemblage of put-together pics and ' altering ' effects. Fact is, I don't recall ever seeing such a ' worked-over ' pic, and especially the area of your study here. The site you have pointed out having been the focus of much extra " effects " efforts. Indeed , it looks like a swirl of wind-swept snow flying around a barn corner as such ... and like the snow is not a part of the barn ... neither is the cliff ' snow/job ' .. a part of the cliff either.

As to just why such extreme obfuscation attempts appear in this one particular spot seems self-evidence of the great impact, importance or value of the object/s being covered over. There is then, something down there very strange, peculiar, or important enough to merrit a heavier obfuscation effort upon it. I would opinion this could be a giant undamaged statue, or piece of high-tech mechanism, or perhaps the major entrance to the Cliff tunnel-system and internal chambers itself. From the many peoples who are clustered around and about the area, I would consider this latter quite possible.

An impressive and convincing piece of work rdunk. It is concise, to the point, and eminantly readable too. The attached pics clearly balance and communicate the attendant notes well. For what it's worth, I personally consider your posting a classic example of what AA is really all about.

One last point here .. we must have been working independantly and unknowingly on the same idea for posting, and if you feel this post/reply has been intrusive on your work in any way, I will gladly retract or remove it. I do however, feel that the two works are but complimentary and can but strengthen the overall case itself. In any event, that's one competent piece of work rdunk .. and well presented too. smile / -Morbius

rdunk · Member

We often mention suspicion of photo tampering by NASA et.al., and one of the most obvious places for that having been done in Mars is on Cape St, Vincent. When we look at the “face wall" of Cape Vincent, we can still see the ancient Egyptian looking statue, and several other obvious anomalies, but still, the entire wall of this cape appears to have been tampered with.

For the most part, it has been done in a way that makes the wall look as if it has been “textured”. The “texture” is lined to make it appear somewhat natural, but in my opinion, that is what shows it to be so “unnatural”. I am no photo expert, nor am I a geologist, but to me this just does not look right.

So, I am making this OP for the purpose of bringing to light what is the reality, or lack thereof, in these Mars rover photos.

I am going to start with a piece that I believe to be evidence of such tampering, and all are invited to add any such items and thoughts you have relative to the tampering here. I do have other pieces that I will post separately too.

This first item is something I just saw yesterday, while looking at this cape again, for Qmantoo’s “smoke”. In a magnification of a high quality photo of the forward cliff, in a particular place, I saw for the first time, texturing lines above/unattached to a rock face. It seems that however this tampering is applied, in this instant, it went a little awry. The texturing is formed over the leading edge of a vertical drop, but we can see the vertical edge under the texturing as it goes downward. The vertical, edge is white, and it is obvious. and the texturing lines “above/unattached” to the vertical edge are also obvious.

It is also interesting to note that the other two capes that can also be seen in the photo, just to the backside of Cape St. Vincent, have no similar "texturing lines" covering their rock faces.. ??????????

So all of you can take a look it too, I will post a link to the full photo. In addition, I will post a screenshot of a piece of the full photo to help you find it. And, I will post a screenshot of the “evidence” that I see. You will need to magnify the photo substantially to see the "evidence.

The full photo - PIA10210.tif 4,000×3,993 pixels

-- Edited by rdunk on Monday 22nd of April 2013 12:13:26 AM

-- Edited by rdunk on Monday 22nd of April 2013 06:18:25 AM