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Chandre · Dedicated to the truth

RE: Spirit 591 Pan Cam Image

xiriux · Member

Hi Chandre,

I can say� "yes indeed" only. This object is the Home Plate, this is not a tiny area. Its size is about 80mx60m, and the Mitcheltree Ridge, the Tsiolkovski Ridge, the Low Ridge and the South Promontory are very well visible.�
Check this fact on the image (image-pair) and also on MRO images.
I think your eyes are cheated by a perspectivical optical illusion. This image was taken by pancam. The focal length of pancam matches to an narrow-angle lenses with focal length about 115 mm (in 35mm system), therefore the perspective on its images are very different from the normal human-eye perspective. You see distant objects 2x-3x closer, narrower angles as wider etc. and your brain can not process properly these changed circumstances.
Do a trial. Take a photo of an unknown object first with normal-angle (45-50 mm focal length) lenses, then an other one with narrow angle (110-130 mm focal length) lenses. The result will be very similar.

Let me know please, what evidence have you found on sol1811? Is that evidence found on pancam or navcam images?

Chandre · Dedicated to the truth

Hi Guys,
Xiriux I have myself been pondering what is going on ! I downloaded the Spirit Traverse Map from the web-site and could not believe that the area is roughly 100m x 100m !!! That is tiny and if you look at the map Spirit is really working over the area in depth. The image I posted on Sol 1811 (my piece of jewellry) I noted that there was something strange under the wheels. When I went back it had been obscured, now if I look at the map Spirit went back to that area (Sol 1829) and took more photos of where the wheel had stuck (not that I can get any more info from those images but I am still working on it) but then Spirit seems to have really torn up the area !! I think we are really onto something and we need to keep working on our images ! I am trying to find time to log our anomalies on the Traverse map so I can see what is going on. I will post that as soon as I have time.

Xenon · Administrator

xiriux wrote:

Hi guys,

the surface detail circled in yellow is not a pool but the Home Plate!
This image shows its� view from the top of Columbia Hills.
The Home Plate and its environment was the final target area of Spirit: it spent (and is spending) here more than 1300 martian days (sol).
Here, on this area is found a lot of evidence.
The questions are: why? what is/was the Home Plate?

Home plate?, I was wondering why it looked so familiar,� it is amazing the way images can sometimes distort the depth and breadth of an area, as the object I circled looks so close to the rover looks so different to the original panoramic image I first noted of home plate....But thank you xiriux for the correction.

Home plate is thought to be an extinct fumarole (by evidence of hydrothermal basaltic bombs strewn around the area), but maybe it still retains heat as evidence of the steam.

But I do agree with you xiriux, spirit has spent a lot of time there (including being stuck in soil on the west side Home Plate), NASA says it is because of the evidence of past water, but maybe they are studying the anomalies we have already found (plus the ones we are yet to find).

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-- Edited by Xenon on Tuesday 28th of July 2009 12:55:12 AM

-- Edited by Xenon on Tuesday 28th of July 2009 12:56:07 AM

papadipongo · Member

i'm not sure of what means "home plate".
whatever if�with "home plate" u mean the rest of walls or whatever of buildings tracked into the ground i just found something of similar.

xiriux · Member

Hi guys,

the surface detail circled in yellow is not a pool but the Home Plate!
This image shows its� view from the top of Columbia Hills.
The Home Plate and its environment was the final target area of Spirit: it spent (and is spending) here more than 1300 martian days (sol).
Here, on this area is found a lot of evidence.
The questions are: why? what is/was the Home Plate?

Xenon · Administrator

AliensRPeople2 wrote:

Did you say "frozen water"? or a "pool"?� Where in the image is that? Very cool! I didn't notice that!�
Thanks,
ARP2

I think it is Frozen water, looks like it to me, Anyway I have circled it in yellow, the arrows point to the steam......

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AliensRPeople2 · Member

Did you say "frozen water"? or a "pool"?� Where in the image is that? Very cool! I didn't notice that!� aww

Thanks,
ARP2

Xenon · Administrator

papadipongo wrote:

don't be afraid to flood the forum with other images : the forum it's here for that FLOOD IT
;)

Erm..... Please don't make the files to big as I do not know what the download limit is for this site!!!

But yes please post lots more of your images, if they are as interesting as this one then members are in for a treat.

Two more points of interest regarding this image, the first is the indentations around the right hand edge of the large frozen pool (water ice?) could these be tracks? and the second thing of interest, is just above right of the cone shape..... Looks like steam is rising from the ground, if this is the case, then there is a heat source just bellow ground (it is to bright to be dust, besides the soil looks to be damp).

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papadipongo · Member

i think it's a sort of cone and all that stuff around is only a tampering to confuse the object.

unluckly we can't do better, the quality of the image isn't the best ( and maybe this fact is wanted )

don't be afraid to flood the forum with other images : the forum it's here for that FLOOD IT
;)

AliensRPeople2 · Member

I dont know what that is Papa.� I wish I did. That area in the circle is the "main opening"?
Thanks for yor input on Spirit pan cam 591, and for Xenon's input and everyone's... biggrin

I have so many images to post and don't want to flood the forum so I will be posting another image soon... take care!
ARP2
smile

papadipongo · Member

By caforio at 2009-07-03

what do u think about ?
...

papadipongo · Member

this is what i smell :
the area that ARP showed is probably affected by heavy blurring/tampering to cover an object

look well and close to�all the images ( of this area ) posted here and make at the end a confrontation with the elaboration attached to this message.

i think all those "crazy pixels" are there to cover a little artifact with conic shape and a shpere on the top of it.
an object that seems in line to another clear similar shape i yet showed u

the conic shape with the spehere on the top of it that is in first plane ( the one pointed by ARP )�seems to have like a little tube or "spire" surrounding it ( interrupted in a point, at the base of the artifact )

a lot of sphere, all appearing in positions not casual...all appearing with plinths and well smoothed...a lot of abnormally rised pixel distortions ( probably blurring/tampering )...

By caforio at 2009-07-03

papadipongo · Member

By caforio at 2009-07-03

@Xenon : look this image than look the last 2 i posted ( 2 mega zooms of the same area ) . I'm pretty sure about this

1- there are stones like perfect spheres : their respective position can't be obviously the result of the nature's case.

a- sphere that brokes the shadow ( it's visibile also its conic plinth )

b- alien's ball full pair ( with plinths )

c- lines of balls ( these without plints at a first watch�)

"a" seems to be part of something under it�but the image isn't clear : it's possible a tampering i agree with Xenon

2-the black area it's a shadow

-most important of all, the "spheres" are always visible at every range of zoom so they are indipendent from the image's manipulation : they are, look here

By caforio at 2009-07-03

@ARP: i see the "stairs", there is also in this case something of anomalous, and again there are possibilities of a tampering of something.
i think that here it's possible�we are watching pixel artifacts abnormally rised with the target to cover something ( but is just my op ).

the only thing i'm sure of is the presence of the spheres, they are clear.

PS : i don't want to lose the eyesight :)
use gimp as follow
-take the image
-selection of the area u want focus on
-click on the selection then click on the option " reduce the image to the selection"
-now click on "Image" then click "Scale Image" to make a "zoomed version"
-play with brightness/contrast/
-add filters as "contrast mask" and others�to perform better the image
-save the image ( in the save options u can convert the image to another extension as the xcf. extension gives problem with many image-host websites [ select Tiff. is the top ]

my gimp is in italian so maybe the names of the options aren't the right transaltion, whatever it's a base to start from, follow my advices and u will post BIG images... ;)

Xenon · Administrator

This is the area that interests me most, the object (slightly right of center) has three� vertical protrusions on top, going right again is a complicated arrangement of geometric shapes, I also think there is some blurring/tampering evidence

AliensRPeople2 · Member

Hello,
I downloaded that GIMP program and tried to use it last nite for the first time and am attaching the image of the anomalous area here using the GIMP software that I'm still trying to understand!!! confuse

One image shows the apparent "steps" and "openings". I can see the steps leading up to� the main opening and overhead of the main opening appears to be a circle... maybe a symbol?

Thanks!
ARP2

sp 591 pan what_edited-2.jpg

-- Edited by Chandre on Wednesday 19th of May 2010 02:12:45 PM

Xenon · Administrator

papadipongo wrote:

ps
@Xenon : could i have the right to edit posts ?
this beacuse i work and post in real time so happens that, like in this case, i forgive to write something
thx
;)

Papa, the admin panel for this forum does not have the ability to allow members to edit posts unless they have moderator privilege, if you want to be considered for moderator privilege then PM/email me

Xenon

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papadipongo · Member

i'm looking to it ARP soon i will post a zoom of the zone u are talikin about

as of now there is a % that the "stairs" and the "structure" are pixel compression artifacts...i'm not sure

instead i'm quite sure about the spheres...the "pair" and the "3-3" and the "sphere interrupting the shadow" : looking the original image with a zoom of 200% they are yet visible
as of now i've never heard about pixel artifacts with the shape of a sphere...

AliensRPeople2 · Member

Really alot in Sol 591... And thanks for looking into this further!!! I'm amazed at the otheAr artifacts there as well... to me at first it was a building of sorts built into the side of a hill with steps leading up to an opening... but there is obviously much more to it.� Can anyone respond to the steps leading up to the dark half-circle opening? Also, has anyone figured out the distance from the Spirit Rover to this anomaly?� Thanks...ARP2� biggrin

papadipongo · Member

By caforio at 2009-07-01

i donno, i'm confused about this zone of the image

in this image u should see the shape of the "sphere" that interrupts the shadow

but also i notice that this shape seems to be attached to some sort of�artifact ( pixel or alien i donno ) under it : it has a shape that remembers a sort of air craft crashed : I also can see the shadow of this structure on the ground. Finally, it seems that the sphere is an appendix of the artifact, a sort of aerial.�Theer are also a couple of "boxes" in the ground on the right of the "artifact".

i really don't know if this stuff can be pixel artifact....
..also i don't know if pixel artifacts�can present�the shape of spheres...that could be an explication.......
............beacuse on the right u can see 6 other spheres that seems to be deployed into two parallel lines....3-3

the resolution of the mother image isn't the best so to give a clear vision of this spot isn't easy at all, also because a lot of compression artifacts come up if the spot is too "worked" : i will try for better results and i will look if it's possible to have pixel artifacts with the shape of a sphere ( in such case we will learn a thing that will save our time for the next time )

this is a little elaboration to put in evidence the lines i've spotted. A little of patience and i hope to give a better view...

By caforio at 2009-07-01

papadipongo · Member

add on about the "alien's balls full pair"
on the�right of the formation�there are lines looking like a stair..look it close
it seems really a stair that leads to the rock-balls...

ps
@Xenon : could i have the right to edit posts ?
this beacuse i work and post in real time so happens that, like in this case, i forgive to write something
thx
;)

papadipongo · Member

By caforio at 2009-07-01

this is very difficult to clear...
it seems a shadow under a rock crest at the first watch

whatever there is a thing that doesn't convince me : this shadow is "interrupted" in a point

there is something between the "observer" and the shadow in other words...and look the coincidence, it seems the shape of a sphere�with a sort of conic plinth

do u see it ? if not i will take a deeper�look if it's possible to reach a better result

papadipongo · Member

By caforio at 2009-07-01

now let's see what i've noticed : it's on the left in the image posted by ARP

i see 2�at least�"unusual" "Rock-balls" well smoothed, one attached to the other

their respective position is quite singular : attached
they seems to have a sort of plinth under : these plinths appears to be smoothed

considering the shapes of these object and their respective positions it seems to be a "natural formation" of rocks few probable.
if it were an image from the earth any skeptic�could say it's a gelogic formation...

yes, i think�we have the first case of sighitng of a full pair of "alien balls"

papadipongo · Member

humm
i agree with u Xenon, it seems tehre is a strange "shadow" up there
there is also a little strange object to the left of the center
i'm learning to work with gimp 2.6 but isn't easy whatever i will post soon some zooms of the 2 sightings, they could be intresting...

AliensRPeople2 · Member

Also, a big thanks for looking even closer and finding another anomaly!!! I'm going to check your find out now...

AliensRPeople2 · Member

Thanks for having a look at it!� biggrin

Hopefully Papadipongo will check it out as well... I am very curious as to the distance from the Spirit Rover to that part of the hillside where the anomaly is...� based on the other images around the same Sol's, it looks very distant.... So I think that this may be some structure embedded as i thought... there appears to be steps leading up to an opening as well...
Thanks again!
ARP2

Xenon · Administrator

Hi ARP2, I am not sure what to make of this image, I copied the original image from the link you posted, and zoomed in to the area of interest, to me it is just layering of a crest or crater (that is not to say there isn't something embedded into the hillside), my interest in this image though is the darker outcrop just above your observation.

As I zoomed into it, I first thought I was looking at a huge reptile coming around the hillside, but then reality kicked in and I noticed an object slightly to the right again that has three protrusions on the top of it that cannot be geological.

I think papa needs to have a go at this image, as I have only basic software and no means to show the objects I am talking about.

Very nice find ARP2, keep the images coming.

AliensRPeople2 · Member

Hi folks... this is my first time to post an image so I hope it comes out okay. Actually there are two images. One is of an area on Mars by Spirit Rover in Panoramic Camera Sol number 591. The first image is of the area and the object in question is in the upper right of the photo.

sp 591 pan what.jpg

The second image is a close up of the upper right of the image where the interesting object is.

sp 591 pan what_edited-1.jpg

Here is the link:� http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/p/591/2P178834784EFFAEC5P2279L7M1.HTML

Now here are the images. to me it looks like a structure built into the side of a hill? but of course I wanted someones feedback on this...? Are those stairs? Thanks..

-- Edited by Chandre on Saturday 3rd of April 2010 02:21:19 PM

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