Alien Anomalies

gbull · Veteran Member

RE: Found Insect Tracks - some kind of beetle

fruitnut · Member

This thread forked into two separate subjects : up to a point we were dicussing bug trails from the Spirit Rover. After that started analizing a photo by the Sojourner Rover from 1998.

gbull · Veteran Member

they go very slowly so a stuck wheel might not leave a smooth trail, it might just be screwed up, rather than what they say as "stuck".

i don't really know. not that the pics are questionable, we just need our facts straight as we can get them.

happy happy everyone! :)

qmantoo · Teaching the truth

When I looked at that picture of the rover marks, I thought that it was damage to the wheel too, because the marks are so regular and are the same every time.

gbull · Veteran Member

http://images.google.com/images?q=mars+sojourner&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:&oe=UTF-8&rlz=1I7GPEA_en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=sCmrS5KDEs6HkAWzuc3FDQ&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4&ved=0CB4QsAQwAw

sorry, sojourner looks not alot like these pics. these pics are from which one? manhatten to mars is not sojourner.

and a broken wheel does not mean sending data would be a prob.

anyway, i guess i am confused. lol!

fruitnut · Member

Thanks gbull, hopefully we can solve this one out ...

gbull · Veteran Member

then i stand corrected about the wheel!

fruitnut · Member

Ah that was spirit, not sojourner. And I think Spirit has fixed The problem because it's sending data as I write.

gbull · Veteran Member

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn8944-mars-rovers-broken-wheel-is-beyond-repair.html

gbull · Veteran Member

fair enough! i will look!

fruitnut · Member

Gbull this was the sojourner in the late 1900s. I don't know if it has a wheel broken. Maybe you can tell us.

gbull · Veteran Member

one of the rovers wheel is broken, i forget which one.

the marks could be broken wheel drag marks?

thewatcher · Veteran Member

lolol ..Ya I agree... Get a coffee I'll look at that later.. oh also the rover went over the whole site... you can see the damage in my last image...

fruitnut · Member

Excuse me I meant ETL-03 ... I am already confused with all the ET evidence confuse

fruitnut · Member

yes watcher etr01 and etr02 are especially self revealing as overlays ... However In my popinion ETR-03 is proof possitive otherwise ...

thewatcher · Veteran Member

fruitnut wrote:

So in conclusion.

It's a waste of time trying to analize NASA's photos because they are tampered and what we do is add tampering over tampering what becomes a dizzy tampertantrum of sorts!

Yup and no. This is one of the greatest examples of tampering. But the base image shows the alien plant life?? This is a superb find. and the guy (i think) was telling the truth. he just didnt know what he was looking at. Remember Mars is an alien world and 3 toed Disney foot prints really should be given a short stick. Crazily, underneath it all was an amazing example of alien life. if Only he bothered to study it.

Great Job FruitNut...

thewatcher · Veteran Member

Look At ETR-01 is linked to ETR02. Check his image.

Now This is proof positive that this wasnt allowed out for public consumption, he just got confused why. The level of tampering is very very shallow. ...

fruitnut · Member

So in conclusion.

It's a waste of time trying to analize NASA's photos because they are tampered and what we do is add tampering over tampering what becomes a dizzy tampertantrum of sorts! yawn

thewatcher · Veteran Member

CRACKED IT !!!!

This poor guy had a problem... he could see the shapes but couldnt get through the tampering to understand it... We are creatures of patterns. So he did the best with what he could see...FOOT PRINTS.. ( looks like they were partially drawn in )

All the so called foot prints are actually linked... PLANT LIKE!

You can see the follow through between each location.

Tampering on tampering... One to hide an anomaly and another to create one. Mind blowing.

fruitnut · Member

Ok here is the one released to the public :

And this is the one the whisleblower claims to be the original original:

thewatcher · Veteran Member

OK.. These foot prints are deeply suspicious.. Im pretty sure these have been modified from from original image. as I go through I can see the image disappear quickly when I get to ground layer. That means these foot prints are not part of the background image. I'll try again but I smell something here... even though the base image has a large number of anomalies the foot prints are floating... Can you give me the clear original from JPL and one from this guy./. I reckon I can get to the bottom of this. My first attempt as you can see show some imprints.

thewatcher · Veteran Member

No problem... looks very complex.

fruitnut · Member

I was referring to this explaination here, it's ETL03 not ETL02

fruitnut · Member

I made (another) mistake it's ETL-01 not ETL0. A seized the op to colorize for better contrast yawn

fruitnut · Member

For the record: The animation above accounts for what's called ETL-03, not ETL-02 as stated in the whistleblower's article we found.

fruitnut · Member

Watcher could you help me with ETL-0? Though It has been airbrushed too ... they left a starlike footprint: could you enhance it so we can see the details?

thewatcher · Veteran Member

thewatcher · Veteran Member

Yup Mars rover track disturbing a little bit more than just soil. I think there seems to be a very high degree on intelligence in this image

The plot thickens!!

ICEMAN · Senior Member

Mars Rover tracks
Mars Rover tracks.JPG

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NM: Be honest now, do you and the other guys at JPL have a good laugh when you read the accusations on websites that you’ve discovered ancient martian artefacts – or even fossils or skulls – at Gusev and Meridiani but are covering them up? Or is it annoying and distracting?

MG: The more outrageous the more fun!

http://www.newmars.com/2004/05/05/an-interview-with-matthew-golombek/

It must have been very funny when they obfuscated the image of the footprints of the strange thre toed creature furious

goggog · Teaching the truth

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fruitnut · Member

Now this is what I did. To left the original, black pixels darkended even more, and superimposed circles from the one on the right, which the author cliams to be the real one not released by NASA. Though a couple of the circled areas don't match in the least, i have doubts with the rest ... There's something to it .. what you think Humanoid? confuse

fruitnut · Member

Well all I could do was find the image he says was released to the public which is genuine ... http://www-k12.atmos.washington.edu/k12/mars/graphics/81219_full.jpg

Humanoid · Veteran Member

fruitnut wrote:
'Footprint' on Mars by robot explorer Phoenix is a step to scientific discovery
Gosh..for a moment I thought it was a real footprint

fruitnut wrote:
http://www.totalthinker.com/Mars/Footprints/footprint.html#

Unfortunatelly there aren't any official links provided at this site so that we can verify the author's claims. Left/right images are different with the right being the officially released and the left being what...photoshoped?

And the author either has a good sense of humour or I definitely want to try whatever he's smoking...Look below:

Above and right: Pathfinder project scientist Matthew Golembek addresses eager reporters with news about the successful landing. Invisible to the camera, an NSAa51 representative monitored the press conference to make sure he didn't reveal the real news of the day.

-- Edited by Humanoid on Wednesday 24th of March 2010 12:13:32 AM

fruitnut · Member

'Footprint' on Mars by robot explorer Phoenix is a step to scientific discovery

fruitnut · Member

He he, Humanoid, look what I found, while we are looking for insect trails they had already found footprints Mars Creature.jpg

of a three legged crature, and found somebody had landed on mars before us ...

http://www.totalthinker.com/Mars/Footprints/footprint.html#

Humanoid · Veteran Member

I must admit Mr Bitzer's comment makes sense smile

Nice find

fruitnut · Member

This letter from a reader to the NY times appeared in the newspaper in 1909

Mars - 1909 nytimes.gif

thewatcher · Veteran Member

Didnt realize where the bug was. Strange regular tracks. like wheel tracks .

Humanoid · Veteran Member

Humanoid wrote:
The wheel partially seen in the bottom right is somehow wrong. Threads should run along its width, not its lenght but I'm lost as to what else this could be?

Sorry I were wrong about that. The wheel threads are oriented correctly. I misinterpreted the wheel's position before. As for the trail I agree with WingedOne.

fruitnut · Member

The Rover had previously treaded on the terrain and that's what ICEMAN points at. Nonetheless the "bug trails" stand out as not a product of the rover's wheel mark left over but a later disturbance. Any other ideas?

ICEMAN · Senior Member

Spider-man or someone else has been digging on this area or NASA has scooped over it.
We can see something like steeps or walls, something clearly artificial.

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Humanoid · Veteran Member

The disturbed soil we see (excavation trench) might be the result of the rover manoeuvering over that spot. The wheel partially seen in the bottom right is somehow wrong. Threads should run along its width, not its lenght but I'm lost as to what else this could be?

thewatcher · Veteran Member

fruitnut wrote:

Nice.. I think this vindicates my tampering removal .. Some kind of trench with extensive excavation and underlying damage or soil disturbance to underlying structures.

Really Really nice find guys.

fruitnut · Member

fruitnut · Member

I still think this find is important. The scale of the area is very small if we keep track of the rover's base leg showing at the right bottom. It's not like a big boulder of something and accordingly this accounts for an area a few inches width.

qmantoo · Teaching the truth

Unfortunately, I think you are correct and it is just a rock rolling down the slope. Thats a shame, I thought I might have found something interesting.