Last my work not a bird, and addition as the assumption about possible, when that a live being, or continuation of processing of a photo in the theme beginning is simple. Question: If for example the theme name about birds, объзательное a condition to stick to subject only "birds"?
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Последняя моя работа не птица,а просто дополнение как предположение о возможном,когда то живом существе,или продолжение обработки фото в начале темы. Вопрос: Если к примеру название темы о птицах,то объзательное условие придерживаться только темы "птицы"?
thewatcher wrote:We are prepared to challenge each other... lol i know im building a rod for my own back , but im not too proud to roll with the best. So IceMan.. it was just a request of clarification. If you cant then try using words like.. LOOKS LIKE a bird.. or could possibly be a bird. The word bird points to what we all know on earth..
I still think ur imge is interesting.. I just cant find those damned birds')
To be final about exact originals terrestrial неможет and speeches. That we here spread all, including you-it are our imagination, resting on our terrestrial experience. If I assert from 100 % a guarantee that I see that it will be absolute lie because about the Martian validity we earth dwellers незнаем anything, except as by means of viewing of photos and it is only 0.......... 1 % of knowledge of the truth.
If you so persistently suggest to show birds I think enough laid out ICEMAN. If you them do not see (I them perfectly I see), then purely subjective perception and with it there's nothing to be done.
There is no insult-is not necessary will apologise
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Конечно о точных оригиналах земных неможет быть и речи. Всё что мы тут выкладываем,в том числе и вы-это есть наше воображение,упирающаяся на наш земной опыт. Если я буду утверждать с 100% гарантией,что вижу то то ,то это будет абсолютной ложью,потому что о марсианской действительности мы земляне незнаем ничего,кроме как посредством просмотра фотографий и это есть только 0,..........1% знаний правды.
Если вы так упорно предлагаете показать птиц,то думаю достаточно выложенных ICEMAN. Если вы их не видите(я их прекрасно вижу),то тут чисто субъективное восприятие и с этим ничего не поделаешь.
If I i offended u im sorry ;) .. You placed your find for others to look at and question.. yes or no? Isnt that what all this is about.. To filter out the wheat from the chaff (in our minds). People ask all the time, can you clarify, can you explain, can you point out... It comes with the territory. Im not forcing you.. God no... Youve already posted the image. But if you see a bird, thats quite a definitive claim. People looking in must see that we are all not just sheep. We are prepared to challenge each other... lol i know im building a rod for my own back , but im not too proud to roll with the best. So IceMan.. it was just a request of clarification. If you cant then try using words like.. LOOKS LIKE a bird.. or could possibly be a bird. The word bird points to what we all know on earth..
I still think ur imge is interesting.. I just cant find those damned birds')
goggog, thank you for your support trying to explane. I personally see no reason to try more if people do non see they don't that's how it works in every field of the live. Forcing something on someone is not likely to bring up new values.
There are times when language proves a stumbling block between us. This is one of those times...
thewatcher, thank you for your (and others) guidance on improving the quality of what we are posting.
Iceman, I know what you are saying and I am going to repeat it here for you in a way that all can uderstand.... Iceman believes (and has evidence) that NASA is using tampering techniques to convert organic items like water, fauna and flora into objects that resemble rocks. He has posted images to this effect before and he alerted us to the 'pebble' method as well.
Goggog can obviously see what Iceman is talking about as well...
However, and this is where we need to show patience....many of the other viewers cannot.
the watchers point is valid, Iceman can you please enlarge the organic form and draw a line around it to help others see what you see..... in time viewers will understand the significance of what you are saying when they can see it more clearly in the images.
Hi IceMan.. Thanks.. To be honest i was engaging in reverse psychology... I wanted you to blow those images up so that others can see. Your initial bird finds (red boxes) were too small. This is better and aids others looking at what you've found.I really appreciate the effort and I think youve found some possibly very good anomalies. Im here to push all of you harder too ;) . I think things , in this forum have really started to move along nicely , these last couple of days. I am (and others ) are hugely impressed.
Here often meeting an image Here it is analogue This image is not far from now got stuck Spirit
This image is similar to a head of a bird looking downwards
The third as often meeting an image Here other image from other picture Unfortunately the original address I can not will give, because it from personal archive and did not think that it is necessary to be engaged in proofs
If you can blow these up I would be very very interested. If im not seeing what you see, then there is something for me to learn
As stated before I need you to mark out the bird in a larger blowup. Can you do that for me.. Im interested in the subject and this particular image needs clarification for me :)
Well, I try pair of images in addition to the available
Hi thewatcher, the reason for I'm forcing this on you is: I have proof showing NASA using some technique which made metal and other things looks like stone (the surface) I have not yet posed it because it shows so dramatic looking environment and activity, I am waiting for what J.P Skipper had to show us and if he don't I'll do it.
Ok .. lol.. Can you enlarge the areas and highlight... Im always keen to learn. @goggog ..lol Dont quite understand what youre trying to say, friend... Im asking for finer details.. not the theory behind perception! If you can blow these up I would be very very interested. If im not seeing what you see, then there is something for me to learn
As stated before I need you to mark out the bird in a larger blowup. Can you do that for me.. Im interested in the subject and this particular image needs clarification for me :)
..........Once again.. Nice effort.. pitty I cant see your finds..YET!!
As I have understood - this subjective perception of images. For a long time has noticed that that that I see obviously, others in an emphasis do not see, or that that another is visible this незамечаю. That has laid out that ICEMAN, me is perceived and sees perfectly. Even I see still in addition 3,4 images.
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Как я понял -это субъективное восприятие образов. Давно заметил,что то что я вижу явно,другие в упор не видят,или то что другим видно-я незамечаю. То что выложил ICEMAN,мной воспринимается и видится отлично. Даже вижу ещё дополнительно 3,4 образа.
Hi thewatcher, you are free to see or not to see, I' m here to speak about what I see, like some of you do also. If you don't see this or that that's alright because you are not the only one around her, bud I hope together we can do something useful.
Hi IceMan... Looks like u put some overtime into this, great effort.. This is difficult and i dont mean to be ignorant but I do believe in speaking my mind when im moved too. So.. i cant see the anomalies youve pointed out. Normally I dont comment on anything that dosent appeal to me but I do respect your tenacity and feel i must say this. Can you blowup your images and show a more detailed look at the birds. To be honest im at a total loss at what youre showing us. There are a large number of anomalies (as with most martian images) but I cant see the ones youve pointed out.
Once again.. Nice effort.. pitty I cant see your finds..YET!!
Now I think it's a time to show something “alive” on Mars as we are beginning to talk about bird looking stone or something similar we can as well say stone looking bird which is more realistic as we know now NASA can make things look like stone, water as sand and lot of other things. Maybe some of you have already seen the enclosed image. Bud for those who has not I'll going to explain with simple comparisons. This picture snows: eagle, manakin, raven and also some stones looking like formed be water,
we should examine this stones very carefully because they have been lined up as kids do as they are setting up some simple phantasy world( black line around)