Alien Anomalies

Willease · Member

RE: Evidence and arguments for an atmosphere on the Moon

fruitnut1 · Dedicated to the truth

Though I don't believe a word he says I thought it would be interesting to include this article by John Lear, for the sake of discussion, and having different points of view.

The Case for the Civilization on the Moon

"My opinion is the moon is an interesting place with most everything we have here on earth; gravity the same; breathable atmosphere; a civilization far advanced from ours; forests, lakes, meadows, rivers, towering snow-capped mountains, gorgeous and inspiring scenery, cities, bridges, highways, huge structures the purpose of which we can only guess.ghough" -- John Lear

-- Frutty confuse

fruitnut1 · Dedicated to the truth

Thanks watcher for your contributing to this thread.

The reason I included the image of the eclipse, is that it is showing the moon, just before the eclipse is complete, and the sun’s corona is still not visible as you depicted it in your discussion, so maybe, just maybe, it’s helping us see the hypothetic moon’s atmosphere.

Remember we have proved here, that science lies when it’s not able to understand what is really going on (see examples: Astheroid Mathilda Blinking like a Firefly and Mars rovers Pictures are computer generated ).

Below is the equalized version of the image, to show that the sun’s corona is not still visible, in the example at hand, when I ventured the hypothesis that the ring visible around the moon to our naked eyes, could point to the moon’s atmosphere.

Also please read the post below, about the water on the moon’s implications for an atmosphere, so you realize there remains a lot of unanswered questions about our moon, and it’s well known that the facts about our moon continue being hidden in secrecy and surrounded in mystery, just as in the darkest ages of medieval times.

-- Frutty

thewatcher · Veteran Member

Just a little more about atmospheres.

Gravity DOES pull the atmosphere down. That is why it stays around. The
moon and celestial objects like the planet mercury, that are not massive
enough have lost most of their atmosphere. Our atmosphere has a certain
pressure because of the balance of the gravitational attractive force and
the resistance of a gas to compression, as stated fairly accurately by the
ideal gas law: PV= nRT where P is the pressure in atmospheres, V is the
volume in liters, n is the number of moles, T is the absolute temperature in
kelvins, and R is the gas constant, R=0.0825
liter-atmospheres/moles-kelvins. The force of gravity decreases with
altitude, but there are other atmospheric factors that come into play.
Search the term "standard atmosphere 1976" and you will find numerous
calculators that give the pressure and other properties as a function of
altitude. One such is: http://www.digitaldutch.com/atmoscalc/,
The lighter gases tend to escape because of the smaller force of gravity on
them F = G mM/r^2 the smaller the value of m ( the mass of the
atom/molecule) the smaller the attractive force of gravity.

Put Simply...

An atmosphere can only cling to a planet or large body if theres enough gravity. Just look at a case in question, Mars. Low gravity = thin atmosphere. Now the moons gravity is even weaker. The atmosphere would be very very thin if traceable. Earths gravity is strong so it can hang onto its atmosphere.
Now the moon can leak gases etc Volcanic and other but they will bleed off into space. There are cases of clouds passing over sections of the moon but a fully fledged atmosphere would be very unlikely. There could be spots of micro climates in the some craters but being honest, the moons too light.

Cheers

thewatcher · Veteran Member

Major error, OOOPS... The Magnetic field of the sun... Sorry..

A close up view of the southeastern quadrant of the corona reveals details in streamers and arches. Twenty-two separate negatives were computer processed and combined to create an image which captures the subtle structures and features. The faint star one diameter east (left) of the eclipsed Sun is the magnitude 4.2 star 1 Geminorum.

thewatcher · Veteran Member

Hey guys.. Nice thread Fruit...

The Corona around the moon during eclipse in ur image , on close up is actually the magnetic field of the moon shown off by solar winds..

Example showing full glory below.

Depending on lenses focal legth and earths atmospheric conditions u do get a haze when viewed from earth..

Cheers
TheWatcher

qmantoo · Teaching the truth

Could the bright ring around the moon be definite proof of a Moon's atmosphere?Unfortunately, I don't think so because they would probably say that it was a result of light bending around curved objects or the light bouncing off the highly reflective surface or something similar.
You could always try going to one of the more respectable physics forums and asking these questions there (and getting a thorough "beating" while you are at it too, probably). I have got bored with the same answers at these places and they have probably got bored with the same alien questions too..

fruitnut1 · Dedicated to the truth

Picture: REUTERS

The moon passes between the sun and the earth during a solar eclipse as seen in Changsha, Hunan province, China.

Could the bright ring around the moon be definite proof of a Moon's atmosphere?

fruitnut1 · Dedicated to the truth

Water on the surface of the Moon, no matter how thin it may be, creates a very BIG problem for the Not Always Science Administration boys.

Finding water on Mars or on the Moon creates a big problem. Lower air pressure lowers the boiling point of water.

Now let's take this idea of Moon water to its logical conclusion based on known physics. If the Moon has no atmosphere, how could a thin layer of water still cover the Moon's surface after being BAKED for billions of years at 253F. by solar radiation?

Something just doesn't add up with this miracle water. And we thought the miraculous healing water at Lourdes, France was something special! Perhaps the Catholic Church better get up to the Moon ASAP - and bring back some of that amazing water that won't sublimate or boil away. Perhaps it can heal the common cold, too.

Now we need some answers from the Never Always Science Administration

1. Does the Moon have an atmosphere dense enough to prevent water evaporation or not?

2. Does it reach 253F. on the sunlit side or not?

If the recent spacecraft data is accurate, then it must have water and some type of atmosphere. The same laws of physics control how water reacts to heat and pressure everywhere in our solar system.

I'm sure we'll silent treatment to these questions.

Ted Twietmeyer

Ref: http://www.rense.com/general87/moonwater.htm

-- Frutty

fruitnut1 · Dedicated to the truth

The Lunar Atmosphere

People used to think that moons such as the Earth's moon or the moons of Jupiter had no atmosphere whatsoever. Now, however, measurements have shown that most of these moons are surrounded by a *very* thin region of molecules which can *almost* be called an atmosphere. Such is the case with the Moon.

The atmosphere may come from a couple of sources, one source is outgassing or the release of gases from deep within the Moon's interior. Abundant gases, such as nitrogen and carbon dioxide and carbon monoxide, can be outgassed along with rare gases such as radon.

Another source, as shown in this diagram, are molecules which are loosened from the surface when other molecules from space hit the ground. These molecules may migrate across the surface of the Moon, to colder regions where they recondense into the ground, or they may fly off into space. This mechanism may be a source of lunar water.

Molecules from space come from the solar wind. Because its surface is protected by neither an atmosphere nor a magnetosphere, the Moon is constantly exposed to the solar wind, and these molecules get buried in the Moon's surface. Eventually scientists on Earth will understand more about the process of nuclear fusion, which is another way create energy. Then these molecules buried in the Moon's surface may become an important source of fuel for energy.

Ref: http://www.windows2universe.org/earth/moon/lunar_atm.html

-- Frutty

fruitnut1 · Dedicated to the truth

Blue Moon.

A blue Moon photographed in October 2003 by Tom King of Watauga, Texas. "Here is a picture from a different night provided as a sanity check to assure you that my moon shots do not always have this blue hue," says King.

ref: http://criandoartscommelldesofia.blogspot.com/2010/03/blue-moon.html

Ther "atmoshpere seen here" could be the product of light scattering in the earth's atmossphere, but it's a good start for the thread.

-- Frutty.

fruitnut1 · Dedicated to the truth

CORRECTION THE PHOTO i GOT FROM jOSEPH TURNER WAS FLIPPED 180 DEGREES THAT'S WHY i COULD NOT MAKE IT OUT. LOL. HOWEVER THE ATMOSPERE IS THERE AND THE FLYING OBJECTS TOO.

-- Frutty

fruitnut1 · Dedicated to the truth

This beautiful vintage moon photo entitled “The Moon aged 9 days” that was taken by Joseph Turner in 1873 (!) with the Great Melbourne Telescope.

ref: http://www.skyblue-pink.com/?p=4118

Vintage Moon photographs are the only photographs one will ever find in which the "atmosphere" is not blacked out.

Two observations.

Is this the moon we are used to seeing nowadays? (The 9 days moon) (Having studied the visible side of the moon my answer would be NO!)
Can you guys see "The ether" around the moon as well as flying "objects jumping from it?

-- Frutty

qmantoo · Teaching the truth

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Yes, the depth of the crater is over 2 miles deep.

This would mean that the face of the sphinx is a huge work of art and would have invovled many artisans.

Something here does not ring true.

We are told by the scientific community that the atmosphere on the moon is so thin that it is incapable of supporting intelligent life without breathing apparatus.

If the scientific information we are given is correct, how were the many anthropological shapes able to be worked into the rock with no oxygen and also alarming amounts of solar radiation?

Or, could it possibly be that there is a level of oxygen in the lunar atmospere which enabled the sculptures and carvings to be formed by artisans who were wearing protective clothing.

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qmantoo · Teaching the truth

I think this is a valid topic for discussion and one which we could investigate.
I am going to start it by moving Timewarps excellent post in another thread to this one.

It suggests that artists could not have produced some of the large carvings we see on the Moon if they are suited-up and are wearing thick bulky clothing.

I would like to add that how would our astronauts know if there was breathable air on the Moon if they have been told that they will die if their suits are punctured and if they wear oxygen tanks? I bet they dont carry Star-trek instruments to tell them what composition the atmosphere is made of.