Alien Anomalies

Levelwind · Senior Member

RE: Curiosity Update

Levelwind · Senior Member

http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/msss/00198/mcam/0198MR1007062000E1_DXXX.jpg

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goggog · Teaching the truth

Mars Science Laboratory: Sol 89

The thread connecting two stones is well visible. Unfortunately a big format of the image didn't wait

Causality · Member

Hi! This object is more likely to be a part from some manmade space craft. For example the Mars polar lander has similar features. (I’m not saying that it is the Mars Polar Lander) when I searched for satellites and space vehicle it was the one I found with most resemblance to the object in the picture, there are others though. My point is that it’s more likely to be from earth. I got a little too exited when I first found the anomaly next time I’ll hold my horses.

//Causality

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goggog · Teaching the truth

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Interesting symmetry of a forward part of object confuse

goggog · Teaching the truth

On aiming and the reference Causality smile

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Chandre · Dedicated to the truth

Thank you NASA for the wonderful quality of the Curiosity images (and I never thought I would say that). After years of looking through a 'dirty window' on the other Rover images we finally have windowlene applied and the anomalies are just popping up off the page. Polluks, you did a wonderful job on merging, clarifying and then highlighting some of the anomalies in that area.

I am including another very interesting area in this image in the red block below, can you work some of your magic and let us have a clearer look at that ? The area in the image I am posting is full of anomalies, but I am leaving that to all of you to work over. This image appears to be a gold-mine !

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After years of looking at this image you need to sometimes step back and look at the area as a whole to try to understand what you are seeing scattered over the ground. Please understand that this is my PERSONAL opinion about what I am seeing and that explains the debris field to me, this may not be what you see.

The lines define the edges of a building foundation, imagine a greek-style temple layout. There are the remnants of two possible columns in the image and to the right what may be part of a column. Something seems to have struck the building from the left of the image and it collapsed to the right so we are seeing shards of carved stone friezes and possibly internal walls in this area. I have not had a look yet but I imagine there will be more debris in any images to the right of this area. Just makes me wish I could stand there there, brush in hand with some superglue and paste it all back together biggrin

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ICEMAN · Senior Member

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If you look closely you can see that the sky is cloudy.

polluks · Member

perhaps this is area of the Curiosity Lander's wreckage

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Macten · Member

Geomeo, what do you mean by "reverse motion blur" ? Is this something in your software and if so what software are you using? It sounds like some very expensive forensics stuff. The software I originally wanted to decode these pics was 3 to 4K and I just cant afford that.

goggog · Teaching the truth

If to peer into each centimeter of a picture, it is possible to see a lot of the interesting. To your attention I expose only a part of these finds.

In the main picture exposed objects are allocated. On the original according to the reference it will be easy to you to check.

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Morbius · Veteran Member

Polluks, hello again. Have tried to make sense of your helmet-submission. Just what it is ( or has been distorted into ) I cannot determine. However, there appears to be three helmet-like objects lying in front of your inigmatic main piece or find. Am attaching a pic to this effect so you may find some reasoning to the larger picture. Best wishes .... -Morbius

geomeo · Member

Just a good guess, but when I try to decode the pics I see the same pattern... but it is also has a smudge component which directionally blurs the areas within the grid, which I have tried to correct with a reverse motion blur..but it is too complex for all areas. I will get to the original saved on my main computer soon and send for your review. And I agree with you. Odd thing. No time at the moment. I will send in another comment area.

polluks · Member

Curiosity, Sol 66 & 60.

This 'rock' look like a head (visible even part of strap with buckle):

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goggog · Teaching the truth

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These lines connected among themselves remind skeletal fittings of whom or ...........

Morbius · Veteran Member

Not likely anyone will prove you wrong here, because your right Macten. In my head it all worked out quickly enough, but not thought out well, so just dashed it off for viewing anyway. That you caught it is good, and I stand corrected ... must be having a bad pixel day! I do wonder however if certain people might have the reversal-codes, it would seem possible, but is not likely the picture is sent in two formats, but as Q suggests they are likely sent pre-processed and permanently smeared together. Our work here shows great incentive and resourcefulness all around and that's what were all about . \So, win, lose, or draw .. the party goes on! thanks again -Morbius .

goggog · Teaching the truth

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Macten · Member

Morbius,,

I dont mean to be a party killer here but wouldnt the pattern still obfuscate whatever was under it after you nulled it out? Since the original pixels have been replaced by the pattern that doesn't mean you would get them back. Unless..... you had the original multilayer pic. Then you could just delete the layer.

I am sure the layers are combined to make a jpeg. After that you cant separate them.

It would be nice if someone could prove me wrong.

qmantoo · Teaching the truth

Geomeo,

Why would they send it separately to the image as I feel it is added in the processing stage and not the transmission stage? After my pm to you, I realised that we get this all the time here on the TV in the buses. The digital signal breaks up because the bus computer/receiver is not working well and we get a blocky kind of image on the screen. Actually, I think they may record it and play it from hard disk, but anyway...

This layer could be just the blocky digital image that your slower internet connection gave you and unfortunately not the 'coding layer' that we all need to de-clutter the NASA images.

I hope I am wrong about this, but I suspect I am correct (unless you have got this layer from some work you do for a branch of the government!)

Q

geomeo · Member

Sad to say at times my slow and at times remote ( studio) area wireless download half tones Mars pics. So ,one day ths patten popped up in a half download. I recognized it for a layer...we have all seen in the sky's etc.. So random it is and very not very mysterious.. I also sometimes get a lavender color one ,not the grid,which would take out green ( on color wheel ).. I reduced the size to send on net. I will forward the original half download at some point...

Morbius · Veteran Member

meomeo meomeo .. has some portal to another dimension opened to you? That is quite an impressive solution you've come up with. Yes, it would not be difficult to apply this procedure. Need to zoom the pattern in a layer protocol to the same pixel size and try to find a match. If so, then reverse the polarity ... or, switch to negative and using the intensity slide find a point they will cancel out. This should bring out a picture somewhat closer to the original. There is however a further consideration here. I am familiar with codes and deciphering to some degree, and a major requirement of these is to make them as effective and unbreakable as possible, so these are never repeated. It woud not suprise me then if you no who has already arranged their pattern/s to be a random or pre-set ( thus decodeable ) format in case someone, not mentioning any names, might have a bolt of genius in how to unravel their security fogs. By the way, how or where did you ever think up or get this idea ... and where? Mabee shouldn't ask too. Good thinking meomeo. -Morbius

polluks · Member

qmantoo wrote:
Polluks, can you comment or say something about the images you have posted? What are we supposed to do... read your mind?

It may seem obvious to you, but to others including me, it is not clear what you are trying to show us. I can see the thing in the middle that looks like elephant or camel droppings, so what do you think it is then?

Sorry, my fault. smile My point is... that parts of this piece of rock look like a design elements of helmets confuse

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Morbius · Veteran Member

Q, not to be dispariging to polluks in any way, but that is really a funny descriptive, and a valid reason as well. Methinks, if ' someone ' is reading all these amassed ' camel droppings ' however .. ' they ' are going to think we're all wack-jobs .. haha! - Morbius

geomeo · Member

or at least used to use on Spirit and Opportunity.

geomeo · Member

Attached is one of the layers NASA uses to screen pics. It would be interesting if someone could reverse and re-apply.I don't know if that is a possible option.

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qmantoo · Teaching the truth

Polluks, can you comment or say something about the images you have posted? What are we supposed to do... read your mind?

It may seem obvious to you, but to others including me, it is not clear what you are trying to show us. I can see the thing in the middle that looks like elephant or camel droppings, so what do you think it is then?

polluks · Member

Curiosity, Sol 059 & 060

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helmet ?

qmantoo · Teaching the truth

Yes, I think that if NASA are going to forge pictures, they will create the whole effect. Meaning that the images we see would be completely computer generated like games software backgrounds. This may be what is happening and we are all wasting out time and effort? However, I will assume not.

I do think that they change the images we see by compressing, overlaying, smudging, and blacking out various parts so that we do not recognise the truth we may find "uncomfortable" or which is inconvenient for them for us to see.

goggog · Teaching the truth

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goggog · Teaching the truth

Morbius, I with you isn't agrees. I do not see a reason for fakes and you yet didn't overpersuade me.
Allow to ask: what for you not a forgery in pictures? The forgery can pictures entirely?

Morbius · Veteran Member

no goggog, neither you, I, nor anyone else in the forum, have the equipment or incentive to generate ' forgeries .' And yet, as most everyone in the forum is aware, NASA does generate ' forgeries, as you put it. Can I ' prove ' it is a generated scene? Yes ... but I feel this would only be even more disturbing , so won't.

Please goggog, this is an open forum to show pics, good, bad, or otherwise .. and to engage in conversations on these, and other things too. I apologize if the translation seems accusative, but this is not so by any means. I hope this reply brings a good spirit to your musings and ruminations of things that may not be as serious as they seem. sincerly, Morbius

goggog · Teaching the truth

Morbius wrote:
goggog , this pic is 90% computer-generated

Whose computer processing? My processing? It seems told that NASA of forgeries doesn't do. I correctly understood you? My processing means. Right? Well so the reference to the original is. And in general than you can prove that it is computer processing?
The sent spy so persistently convincing about a forgery can you? Know that, too much that isn't pleasant to me at a forum and a lot of things seems the empty chatter, not demanding attention and I still was silent on your shouts from for respect for your opinion, but you got me.
The worst tell that that the Satan convinced many that it on light doesn't exist!!!

Morbius · Veteran Member

Hello WeComeFromDifferentWorlds , welcome to Alien Anomalies . I consider this the best site under the stars, barring none, and hope you enjoy the membership priviledge ... and view. Happy posting and the best of comradeship on the planet ! -Morbius

Morbius · Veteran Member

goggog , this pic is 90% computer-generated . The pic you ' see ' -is not even there. The one you don't see ... is . I suppose people are tired of me hollering ' obfuscation ' with a bunch of arrows , etc. , so will not comment on these anymore. Sorry goggog , if Skipper's word is no good ... then mine is useless period . How tired of explaining simple things with little or no response , and, I ask, if simple things are not quite understood, how well then would they comprehend greater things ? -Morbius

goggog · Teaching the truth

Transparent mineral?

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goggog · Teaching the truth

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WeComeFromDifferentWorlds · Member

polluks wrote:
http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/proj/msl/redops/ods/surface/sol/00055/opgs/edr/ncam/NLA_402388828EDR_F0043416NCAM00442M_.JPG
http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/proj/msl/redops/ods/surface/sol/00055/opgs/edr/ncam/NRA_402388828EDR_F0043416NCAM00442M_.JPG

It seems to be an artefact of an old mechanic ? You can found this object as full at ... PIA 16202 there you can see more details. THX pollux

And here, One of the best Marsanomlies Videos ever i think . http://youtu.be/5mC0nFX6EEc

-- Edited by WeComeFromDifferentWorlds on Friday 12th of October 2012 08:45:16 PM

-- Edited by WeComeFromDifferentWorlds on Friday 12th of October 2012 08:52:55 PM

WeComeFromDifferentWorlds · Member

smile

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goggog · Teaching the truth

Here, enjoy types smile

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Morbius · Veteran Member

goggog hello, and thanks for replying. It must have been taxing to compose, and I admire your determination. In fact it seems the longest post I've seen run by you. As for the reason you seem reserved in postings, I understand what you write quite well enough, and have no problems in the seeming dearth of opinions or comments. That you take no offence to seeming criticism, as you put it, speaks well of you in my reconing too. I am however, not ' suspicious ' ( about NASA ) , just ... aware. NASA does not present ' obvious ' fakes ( < pictures ) , but just the opposite! Anyone who analyzes such photos, and keeps in mind the obfuscation understanding that Skipper has provided mentorship on, will have an easier task of unravelling these special-effects photos. All in all, I like your reply and the spunk and persistence to compose it, so please, don't take me off your Christmas List .. I would be devasted! -Morbius

goggog · Teaching the truth

Morbius wrote:
goggog: I do see you are proficient at picking out details, yes. Have you thought about what you think they are? You see, strobed pictures are nice, but without some comment or observation .. are just that. Personally, I don't care for that format and presentation, among other art-forms of distinction. NASA has gone to great lengths to produce these highly modified representations of what they would like the public to appreciate in these amazing views they have spent so much time and public money to obtain. The first thing to observe then goggog, is not what's in a pic, but to what lengths they have gone to obscure it. I note in the last two posts that they have left approximately 10-15% of the original picture intact. The rest is generated by various means and cover-ups. Iceman has admonished me, and correctly so, " Morbius! Remember that NASA decieves you." You know what .. he is right. And, by extension, it seems plausible that if they can decieve me ... then anybody is fair game in their dillusions game. The fact is, I note of late, they have intensified and raised their techniques and efforts to extraordinary heights ( or depths ) of deception. It is becoming more and more difficult to discern where reality ends and fantasy begins with their works. Just be shure as to what is bogus and what may be real in a picture before even attempting to ' see ' something in it. I have made this error when dicoveribng the Martian Boob Lady .. or did I .. now I don't know for shure? Anyways goggog, please forgive, if I seem to be picking on you, just over critical at times to avoid shall we say .. a reality denial syndrome. Keep looking my friend ... there's still plenty of work to do, and missed treasure to find indeed! - Morbius

Hello Morbius! I think that you the stated suspicions only suspicions only and only. I certainly don't exclude that NASA that there hides that and isn't sincere, but I personally don't see obvious fakes. And I do not support unsubstantiated suspicious statements. It is possible to assume anything.
At your criticism in my address I do not take offense. Everything is normal. Even I consider that the criticism is sometimes necessary.
Morbius, still I want to tell, you at me don't take offense, if the messages turned to me I do not answer. I have problems with English and I communicate only through the translator. Therefore it is difficult to me to understand all subtleties of a spoken language. OK?

Morbius · Veteran Member

goggog: I do see you are proficient at picking out details, yes. Have you thought about what you think they are? You see, strobed pictures are nice, but without some comment or observation .. are just that. Personally, I don't care for that format and presentation, among other art-forms of distinction. NASA has gone to great lengths to produce these highly modified representations of what they would like the public to appreciate in these amazing views they have spent so much time and public money to obtain. The first thing to observe then goggog, is not what's in a pic, but to what lengths they have gone to obscure it. I note in the last two posts that they have left approximately 10-15% of the original picture intact. The rest is generated by various means and cover-ups. Iceman has admonished me, and correctly so, " Morbius! Remember that NASA decieves you." You know what .. he is right. And, by extension, it seems plausible that if they can decieve me ... then anybody is fair game in their dillusions game. The fact is, I note of late, they have intensified and raised their techniques and efforts to extraordinary heights ( or depths ) of deception. It is becoming more and more difficult to discern where reality ends and fantasy begins with their works. Just be shure as to what is bogus and what may be real in a picture before even attempting to ' see ' something in it. I have made this error when dicoveribng the Martian Boob Lady .. or did I .. now I don't know for shure? Anyways goggog, please forgive, if I seem to be picking on you, just over critical at times to avoid shall we say .. a reality denial syndrome. Keep looking my friend ... there's still plenty of work to do, and missed treasure to find indeed! - Morbius

goggog · Teaching the truth

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Morbius · Veteran Member

Hello polluks, you have postd a really good pic. To begin, it has been purposely shaded-down. Once ' lightened-up ' there is a light obfuscation applied, because this would provide less contrast or appeal for public release. But, when it is ' lightened-up ' there is a great amount of detail present that just nees a small reduction of the obfuscation layer. Am ttaching 2 pics of this resolving process ... and some rather good results. There is, in the center distance, an installation I believe is part of a very old military complex, another Maginot Line on Mars. This seems evidenced from the walled ridge-line behind this building, is studded with spaced pill-boxes, blockhouses, and goes on for miles. Beyond that are simular ruins that go on to the horizon. This is an exemplary pictue polluks, and a good find ... thanks for sharing it with us !

-Morbius

polluks · Member

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Chaos

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goggog · Teaching the truth

Here works will suffice all smile

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Morbius · Veteran Member

Hello goggog, you have a knack for picking really obfuscated pictures. Did you take a special course for this, perhaps at the Martian Finger-Painting Institute for Special-Beings ? Just kidding my friend, but what do we really have here ? As mentioned, this pic is one of the worst I have encountered ... it is totally smeared .. top to bottom! Two things to mention though. There appears in the attached as marked, another indication of a military presence on Mars. The obfuscation is so thick and all-prevasive it almost went unnoticed .. that's how bad this pic is. I also note that all these pieces lying about, the larger ones that is , are all part of some mechanism or transportation enclosure. This is of course my own ' opinion ' ..for what it's worth. So many times we see that the Rover is passing a strongly armed military outpost or such, and it begs the question, since they have not blown it to smithereens -have we made some agreement with ' them ', or are these in fact ' our own '? It seems the more you pick up pieces of ' the puzzle ' , the more confused you get .. honestly. I think I'll ask the doctor if he can make me into a self-induced retard, then top it off with amnesia ... wouldn't that be a neat combination! Anyways, take a look and see what you think. -Morbius

goggog · Teaching the truth

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Morbius · Veteran Member

Don't worry bud, after a while here, you'll be able to see all kinds of really amazing stuff .. just give it time. - Morbius

bud spencer · Member

I dont see anything in those pictures. Its just a mess of pixels to me.